[duxuser] Re: Question about Word and Computer Braille

  • From: "Foxworth, Ann" <Ann.Foxworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 11:24:59 -0500

The only problem I've encountered with turning on the translate courier to cbc 
function in Duxbury is that I got a document a couple of times and it must've 
all been in courier and at the end of every single line in that entire document 
appeared the computer braille continuation sign.  It took me hours to figure 
out what was going on.  Soon as I turned off that feature, the document was 
fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Deborah Barnes [mailto:dbarnes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 2:13 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Question about Word and Computer Braille


I agree with:

I noticed in one
document I transcribed from Word, that there was a [hyperlink] style
brought across from the Word document.  If that style could act like
comp-inline, we would have the problem solved in some cases.

And it would be good to be able to do this "with a minimum of manual
intervention: also.  As for me, I wouldn't have a clue which documents are
Courier or Time Roman without having to check and would love to just have a
command that would work kind of like the Compuline and maybe one day Duxbury
can fix it where if a Hyperlink Field is noted it woll do CBC.  But thanks
to everyone for their comments on this.

Deb B. (who's thankfully going home!!!)





-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Lloyd G. Rasmussen
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 5:06 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Question about Word and Computer Braille

DBT doesn't know what kind of computer braille is wanted when Courier font
is used.  It switches into comp-display. style, the one with the blank
lines and no CBC indicators, when Courier is encountered, I think.  It's
likely that you will want to use comp-inline instead, or a modified version
of comp-inline that includes CBC word breaking treatment.  I don't think
DBT will know when each type of Courier is which.  I noticed in one
document I transcribed from Word, that there was a [hyperlink] style
brought across from the Word document.  If that style could act like
comp-inline, we would have the problem solved in some cases.

At 05:17 PM 5/15/03 +1000, you wrote:
>Hello everyone
>
>This is mainly a question for George.  Actually, there are two questions.
>
>On Thursday May 15, George Bell wrote:
>If you make the web address Courier, you can then ensure that prior to
>Import, you make sure that in DBT, under Global, Word Importer, you check
>"Courier to CBC".
>...
>If you have SWIFT, there is an option there for dealing with Hyperlinks.
>
>George, this didn't work for me.  I also cannot find reference to the Swift
>option.
>
>I made a simple file with Times New Roman as the default font.  I changed
>the email addresses and Web reference to Courier New.  I got computer
>Braille, but I got a starting dots 46, like an italic sign or underline
>before the first letter.  I didn't consistently get the open and close
>two-cell signs, depending whether the Word document took a new line.  With
>the Web reference I got a blank line before it and no computer code
>introduction sign.  I did get the continuation symbol.  I'm confused what
to
>do to get the email addresses and Web references to come out correctly from
>an imported word file, with a minimum of manual intervention.
>
>The Test File I used is attached, if the attachment gets through.  There
>were also some other anomalies with this file, such as the list.  It's also
>possible that some styles are slightly out of place.  The numbering in the
>Braille seemed a bit strange.
>
>I am using Windows XP-Pro, Word 2000, DBT 10.4 and JFW 4.51.  I'm using the
>English Australian table - largely British contraction rules with the
>American computer code.  I also tried, through Swift, to use the Standard
>template with American table.  No improvement!
>
>Hopefully, there is something simple which I am doing wrongly.
>Alternatively, I hope that the treatment of email addresses and Web
>references in Word can be cleaned up in DBT 10.5.
>
>I want to crack this problem of automating email addresses and Web
>references.  I soon have a document to deal with, one I wrote myself, that
>has to go into Braile.  It is written with styles, so in theory everything
>should be okay; but it contains almost 200 Web references, all of which are
>currently in the default Times New Roman font as active links.  I simply
>want to avoid manual intervention on each one, when getting its translation
>correct in Braille.  Many Web references start on a new line in the print,
>but I don't want a blank line preceeding them in the Braille.
>
>Now I have a second matter to raise.  I cannot understand why DBT does not
>recognise the commonplace bullets used by word.  Is this because Braille
>doesn't have the requisite symbols to represent bullets? Can DBT be made to
>simply use 99 rather than *99 to represent bullets?
>
>all help is appreciated.
>
>Cheers
>
>
>Bill
>
>
>* * *
>William Jolley
>wjolley@xxxxxxxxxxx
>613 9807 5137
>* * *
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "George Bell" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 2:19 AM
>Subject: [duxuser] Re: Question about Word and Computer Braille
>
>
>> Hi Deb,
>>
>> If you make the web address Courier, you can then ensure that prior to
>> Import, you make sure that in DBT, under Global, Word Importer, you
>> check "Courier to CBC".
>>
>> However be warned.  Nothing else in the Word document should be Courier.
>>
>> If you have SWIFT, there is an option there for dealing with Hyperlinks.
>>
>> George.
>
Braille is the solution to the digital divide.
Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Staff Engineer
National Library Service f/t Blind and Physically Handicapped
Library of Congress    (202) 707-0535   <http://www.loc.gov/nls/>
HOME:  <http://lras.home.sprynet.com>
The opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent
those of NLS.


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