[duxuser] Re: Question about Word and Computer Braille
- From: "George Bell" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 10:52:30 +0100
Hi William,
Sorry for the delay in seeing your message being posted. Because it had
an attachment, one of the moderators (me) had to approve it first. I've
left it attached as it could be an excellent exercise for anyone wanting
to do similar.
The first observation I have to make is that not all your e-mail
addresses were in Courier or Courier New. In fact only 1, 3, 5, 7, 9
and 10 were Courier New. Since the remainder were simply underlined
Times New Roman, the appearance of dots 4,6 is correct.
There is then the issue of addresses being either in-line or within
text, so to speak; or on a line of their own. Hence the "compinline"
Style is applied to those within text, and the "compdisplay." Style
where they are on a line of their own. This is correct according to
BANA and BAUK.
The strange numbering is rather odd. In some cases, it appears that
some numbers have been emboldened. I'd need to look at the Word file in
much more detail to establish what the problem is, but for example "13"
appears to be a bold 1, and a normal 3.
Bullet points are a hairy issue, since just about any of 40,000 odd
characters can be used for a bullet.
What is actually being generated in your case here is an o grave
character in the ANSI character set, which DBT translates to ch in in.
I believe this will change in 10.5, though I'm not entirely sure how the
logic is to be applied. BAUK are making some proposals at the moment,
which has put this issue up in the air somewhat.
As regards SWIFT, if you have DBT 10.4, you should find a file called
DBT2.DOT in the c:\duxbury folder. If you copy that file to your Word
or Office startup folder, you will find the utility in Word next time
you go into Word. It will be an extra menu item called DBT or Duxbury.
Hope this starts to get you back on track, but let me know if you
encounter any more problems.
George Bell
Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Jolley [mailto:wjolley@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 15 May 2003 08:18
> To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: William Jolley
>
> Hello everyone
>
> This is mainly a question for George. Actually, there are
> two questions.
>
> On Thursday May 15, George Bell wrote:
> If you make the web address Courier, you can then ensure that
> prior to Import, you make sure that in DBT, under Global,
> Word Importer, you check "Courier to CBC".
> ...
> If you have SWIFT, there is an option there for dealing with
> Hyperlinks.
>
> George, this didn't work for me. I also cannot find
> reference to the Swift option.
>
> I made a simple file with Times New Roman as the default
> font. I changed the email addresses and Web reference to
> Courier New. I got computer Braille, but I got a starting
> dots 46, like an italic sign or underline before the first
> letter. I didn't consistently get the open and close
> two-cell signs, depending whether the Word document took a
> new line. With the Web reference I got a blank line before
> it and no computer code introduction sign. I did get the
> continuation symbol. I'm confused what to do to get the
> email addresses and Web references to come out correctly from
> an imported word file, with a minimum of manual intervention.
>
> The Test File I used is attached, if the attachment gets
> through. There were also some other anomalies with this
> file, such as the list. It's also possible that some styles
> are slightly out of place. The numbering in the Braille
> seemed a bit strange.
>
> I am using Windows XP-Pro, Word 2000, DBT 10.4 and JFW 4.51.
> I'm using the English Australian table - largely British
> contraction rules with the American computer code. I also
> tried, through Swift, to use the Standard template with
> American table. No improvement!
>
> Hopefully, there is something simple which I am doing wrongly.
> Alternatively, I hope that the treatment of email addresses
> and Web references in Word can be cleaned up in DBT 10.5.
>
> I want to crack this problem of automating email addresses
> and Web references. I soon have a document to deal with, one
> I wrote myself, that has to go into Braile. It is written
> with styles, so in theory everything should be okay; but it
> contains almost 200 Web references, all of which are
> currently in the default Times New Roman font as active
> links. I simply want to avoid manual intervention on each
> one, when getting its translation correct in Braille. Many
> Web references start on a new line in the print, but I don't
> want a blank line preceeding them in the Braille.
>
> Now I have a second matter to raise. I cannot understand why
> DBT does not recognise the commonplace bullets used by word.
> Is this because Braille doesn't have the requisite symbols to
> represent bullets? Can DBT be made to simply use 99 rather
> than *99 to represent bullets?
>
> all help is appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Bill
>
>
> * * *
> William Jolley
> wjolley@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 613 9807 5137
> * * *
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bell" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 2:19 AM
> Subject: [duxuser] Re: Question about Word and Computer Braille
>
>
> > Hi Deb,
> >
> > If you make the web address Courier, you can then ensure
> that prior to
> > Import, you make sure that in DBT, under Global, Word Importer, you
> > check "Courier to CBC".
> >
> > However be warned. Nothing else in the Word document
> should be Courier.
> >
> > If you have SWIFT, there is an option there for dealing
> with Hyperlinks.
> >
> > George.
> >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Deborah Barnes [mailto:dbarnes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 14 May 2003 19:50
> > > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Hi everybody,
> > >
> > > Usually I do all my editing from Duxbury but I'm in a
> position where
> > > I can't access my Duxbury from Word right now so I have
> to make my
> > > changes in Word.
> > > So my question is this:
> > >
> > > When I'm in Word can I do something to a hyperlink or Web
> address so
> > > that when I take the document to Duxbury it will
> translate into CBC
> > > when it's embossed?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Deb B.
> > >
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