Thanks a lot, Kathy. That's interesting about the letter sequence chst
followed by "a" cancelling the use of the st contraction.
Peg
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf
Of Riessen, Kathy (SA School for Vision Impaired)
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 3:10 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Translation Anomaly - the name Birchstar
I am sure that the DBT team are already looking at this anomaly.
I have done some sleuthing and found that when you have chst followed by an
"a" DBT will cancel the "st" contraction.
Thanks for bringing this up Peg as I will add this to my list of "things to
double check" in a file.
Until DBT resolve the issue, the wordaround that I have found is to simply
add a dummy code such as [/] between the ch and st.
Kathy
Kathy Riessen
Coordinator Accessible Format Production South Australian School for Vision
Impaired
Tel: 08 8277 5255
Email: Kathleen.Riessen440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf
of Donald Winiecki <dwiniecki@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2018 23:59
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Translation Anomaly - the name Birchstar
I'm with Peg, and Roger. I can't find any UEB rules that would prohibit use
of the 'st' strong groupsign in 'Birchstar'.
With some tinkering, I find that while DBT 12.2 does not use the 'st' strong
groupsign in 'Birchstar' it does use it in 'BirchStar' (that is, when the
interior 'S' is capitalised).
Taking a cue from Roger's test case of 'Matchstick' (where the 'ch' and 'st'
strong groupsigns are used) I find that DBT 12.2 also avoids the 'st'
groupsign with 'Matchstar' but uses it with 'MatchStar'.
With this in mind, perhaps DBT is interpreting 'Birchs' and 'Matchs' as one
word (though I woudn't hazard a guess why this is so) and 'tar' as another
word? With these as admittedly odd cases, if used together these would
present unhyphenated compound words, and that would be prohibited by UEB
10.11.1.
For what it's worth, BrailleBlaster 1.1.16.114 and Braille2000 2.273
translate 'Birchstar' and 'Matchstar' with consecutive use of 'ch' 'st' and
'ar' strong groupsigns.
Also, FWIW, there is a UEB rule prohibiting a word made up of only lower
groupsigns in certain cases, but this certainly doesn't apply in the current
case.
_don
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 6:53 PM Peg Mercer
<pmercer51@xxxxxxx<mailto:pmercer51@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hello, Everyone,
In my proofreading, I have come across the name Birchstar which has the
letters "st" uncontracted. I ran this in Duxbury with both the UEB template
and the pre-UEB (former EBAE code.)
I cannot understand why the contraction for "st" would not be used in
Birchstar. Is there something which prevents usage of the "ch" and "st"
contractions being used in a consecutive sequence?
Can anyone please shed light on this for me?
Many thanks.
Peg
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