[duxuser] Re: trouble with transcribing book
- From: Susan <chrn3292@xxxxxxx>
- To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:58:09 -0500
Note the BANA and Textbook templates in DBT 10.5 include DE in the
descriptive name. The DE stands for "distinct emphasis." That means
source files that include bold will translate as bold, NOT italics. If
you don't want the bold, and you are using one of those templates you
have two options.
1) In Word: Convert the bold to italics (or delete it altogether).
OR
2) In DBT: Import the file. Once it's open, go to Document | Translation
Tables and select English/American Textbook. You will still see the
[fts~b]...[fte~b] codes, but the text will translate with italics.
A great percentage of the textbooks these days include distinct emphasis
to indicate the word is included in the glossary. We use bold to
indicate this distinction. Because bold is in such common use in
textbooks these days, Duxbury made the default translation for the
Textbook and BANA templates to translate bold as coded. If you don't
have bold in the file, you'll never know the difference. If you do have
bold you have the option of changing the translation table. It's the
best of both worlds.
Susan
Warren Figueiredo wrote on 9/23/2005, 1:14 PM:
Dave
There are provisions in BANA's Braille Formats for distinctive emphasis
when it is needed. See http://www.brl.org/formats/rule03.html
There you will see: (1) Boldface. When it is necessary, represent
boldface print by the boldface indicator (456, 46) or the double
boldface indicator (456, 46, 46). The rules of usage for these
indicators are the same as for braille italic indicators.
DBT allows for this with a translation table entitled English/American
Distinct Emphasis.
Warren
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 12:50 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: trouble with transcribing book
As far as I am aware, in both the "English American" (BANA) and "English
British" (BAUK) braille rules, bold, italic and underline attributes are
all represented as dots 4-6 in the output braille file.
So therefore, regardless as to whether your .dxp file contains the
beginning and ending codes for bold, italic and underline attributes,
they are all treated in the same way when the file is transcribed to a
.dxb file.
If, at some later date, you decide to open the .dxb file and
back-transcribe the file, regardless as to whether the .dxb file
contains the beginning and ending codes for bold, italic and underline
attributes, when you back-transcribe the file to a .dxp file, the bold,
italic and underline attributes are all represented by the dots 4-5-6
character, in both the "English American" and "English British" DBT
templates.
This can be very confusing, especially when the author of the document
used the three attributes interchangeably within the same piece of text.
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 11:17:23 -0500, you wrote:
If there is underlining, when you reveal codes in DBT, you should see
something like [fts~u] and [fte~u]. Looking at the codes should solve
many mysteries about this document. Often people who do Word documents
"pretty them up" with all kinds of eye candy that doesn't need to be
there for Braille-reading purposes. In general I take all that stuff
out, I don't care what it is. Seek and destroy all eye candy!
Susie
Susie Stageberg Project ASSIST with Windows Iowa Department for the Blind
(515) 281-1351
stageberg.susan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Behalf Of Foxworth, Ann
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:12 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: trouble with transcribing book
The dots 4,5,6 is an underling indicator.
Ann Foxworth, Braille Consultant Div. for Blind Services
4800 N. Lamar BLVD
Austin, TX 78756
PH: 512-377-0471,
E-mail: ann.foxworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Scott Berry
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 10:54 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] trouble with transcribing book
Hello there list,
I am having a problem transcribing a home owner book which I need to get
at least in to a .brf file. The first things I notice is when I import
it from Word in to DBt 10.5 the translator seems to think that I have
bold and something else on. It is dots 4-5-6. I think this is an
indicator. I would like to remove this. Secondly, the actual file came
from Quark Express and I then had it imported to a pdf which I then took
and made .doc files out of. The problem I see is that the Table of
Contents is not formatting properly. It is carying the dopt 5 which
indicates the line for the page number over way too many lines. I think
I counted that being three lines. Is there anything I can do about this?
Thanks for the help.
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