[duxuser] Re: trouble with transcribing book
- From: "Susan Stageberg" <stageberg.susan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:37:38 -0500
Hi Steve, Don and all. I do this by means of Find and Replace, with the
codes revealed. You do indeed have to remove both beginning and ending
codes when you do it this way, but in a document that's really peppered
with this stuff, even having to do two global find and replaces for each
attribute you want to zap is quicker than going one at a time, in my
opinion anyway. Another thing to do is open the offending document in
Word and save it as text. Additionally, if you have Word XP, there is a
command for removing all formatting; it's on the Format menu. It also
seems to me that there is a keystroke for making all the formatting and
styles revert to normal style; it's either CTRL-Shift-N or CTRL-Alt-N.
I usually do a big find and replace for the obvious stuff like bold and
italics and underlining, then I go through and zap anything else that
pops up manually.
This is not to say that my way is the best way. As with most Windows
programs, Duxbury provides 50 ways to leave your formatting...
Susie
Susie Stageberg
Project ASSIST with Windows
Iowa Department for the Blind
(515) 281-1351
stageberg.susan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Behalf Of Steve Dresser
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 11:30 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: trouble with transcribing book
Don,
Maybe Susie has a better answer, but here's what I do:
1. Import the document into DBTW and press Alt-F3 to reveal
codes. This is important, and if you don't reveal the codes, the
rest of the procedure won't work.
2. Then press Control-F to bring up the find dialog. When prompted
for "Text to find?" press Control-Left Bracket and insert the code
you want to remove ([fts~b] for bold, [fts~i] for italics, or [fts~u]
for underline). Then press Enter. This places your cursor on the
first offending code, and you should then press Delete to remove it.
3. Then, press Control-I to find the next occurrence of the code and
delete it as described above.
4 Repeat steps 2 and 3 until DBT tells you that it has reached the
end of the document.
Repeat the entire procedure for each type of code you want to
remove. Note that I used the Find instead of the Find/Replace. This
is because codes for bolding, italics, and underlining come in pairs,
and DBT removes the ending code if you remove the beginning
code. Unfortunately, the automatic removal doesn't work if you
replace each code with a null string, which means that you would have
to find and replace both the beginning and ending codes, thus
doubling the amount of work.
I realize this sounds like a lot of work anyway, and I'd be
interested to know if there's an easier way to do this.
Steve
On Saturday 9/24/05 23:57 D Hansen wrote:
>Susie:
>
>How does one go about getting rid of all that junk? I get Word
>documents all the time that have bolded, italisized, or underlined
>text in them. Any suggestions would be helpful.
>
>Thanks
>
>Don
>
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>Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:17 AM
>Subject: [duxuser] Re: trouble with transcribing book
>
>If there is underlining, when you reveal codes in DBT, you should see
>something like [fts~u] and [fte~u]. Looking at the codes should solve
>many mysteries about this document. Often people who do Word documents
>"pretty them up" with all kinds of eye candy that doesn't need to be
>there for Braille-reading purposes. In general I take all that stuff
>out, I don't care what it is. Seek and destroy all eye candy!
>
>Susie
>
>
>Susie Stageberg
>Project ASSIST with Windows
>Iowa Department for the Blind
>(515) 281-1351
><mailto:stageberg.susan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>stageberg.susan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>a.us
>
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>On Behalf Of Foxworth, Ann
>Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:12 AM
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>Subject: [duxuser] Re: trouble with transcribing book
>
>
>The dots 4,5,6 is an underling indicator.
>
>
>Ann Foxworth, Braille Consultant
>Div. for Blind Services
>4800 N. Lamar BLVD
>Austin, TX 78756
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>On Behalf Of Scott Berry
>Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 10:54 AM
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>Subject: [duxuser] trouble with transcribing book
>
>Hello there list,
>
>I am having a problem transcribing a home owner book which I need to
>get at least in to a .brf file. The first things I notice is when I
>import it from Word in to DBt 10.5 the translator seems to think that I
>have bold and something else on. It is dots 4-5-6. I think this is an
>indicator. I would like to remove this. Secondly, the actual file
>came from Quark Express and I then had it imported to a pdf which I
>then took and made .doc files out of. The problem I see is that the
>Table of Contents is not formatting properly. It is carying the dopt 5
>which indicates the line for the page number over way too many lines. I
>think I counted that being three lines. Is there anything I can do
>about this? Thanks for the help.
>
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