To try & sum things up, and please correct me if I forget something:
Ralph: Yes, I think that might be a bit repetitive, so let's give the chart run
down a miss this time. Thanks for trying anyway.
Jon.B: I also like the idea of the jingle between DJs to save Robojock butting
in.
Tony B does this very well - Any chance of knocking something up please Tony?
I'd like other DJs to be able to phone in, so maybe worth looking at your
Mumble idea.
Simon: I agree about DJs doing shorter slots, so we can fit more in. Maybe
60/90 minute slots?
Good idea about encouraging requests/dedications too.
Maybe the DJs could have free choice of music, within reason of course & maybe
use the Top 100 as a guide?
I know Simon Veness will have done a rundown of these tracks already, but they
are Classics after all.
No one has yet commented on my idea to play out with DSOTM in full.
Any thoughts on that?
Nick: Any thoughts on all of this?
I'll put something on the HR DJ message board to see who might want to get
involved. We won't be able to use everyone.
Steve has agreed to sort the DJ line up out as per usual.
Cheers,
Andy
Andy Gunton
Phone: 07545 264247
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Subject: [Hastings Rock] Re: Final Night
Happy to give it a go. I think I still have the artists I put together for last
year's live gigs
Tony D
On Fri, 22 May 2020, 18:39 Ralph,
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Andy and all.
I have looked in to the chart and completed both single and album best selling
Rock chart so far up to 2007.
My issue is that the is too much band repartition coming up and wouldn’t make
good listening. Eg. 1993 single and album Meat Loaf.
1994/5 Single and album Bon Jovi.
1997 98 99 albums Metallica.
Compiling from UK Rock and Metal charts from the Official UK chart company
Don’t think it’ll work, I’d switch off to be honest as it is not Rock Party
enough.
Perhaps the guys who did the HR roadshows can come up with some floor fillers
for a party night feel.
Ralph.
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On 22 May 2020, at 10:12, Andy Gunton
<andygunton@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:andygunton@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Ok, let's try & get this sorted as we only have a week to go.
I'm going to suggest that we forget the Zoom/video chat idea, as the slight
time lag would make it a problem & we want things to be as easy as possible.
We have 6 hours from when Jon Robson finishes at 6pm until midnight & closedown.
Nick has assured me that we don't need the hour between live DJs, as long as we
make sure they log out & in properly.
This should only take minutes, if that, so we could maybe let Robojock play one
track between DJs & then log in at the end of that track, unless it's a long
one!
How does that sound? Will that work?
I'll put something on the HR DJ message board to see which DJs might like to be
involved. Obviously we'll only be able to use a few, and only a few could
actually do it anyway, but I want to at least give them the option.
Steve: Would you be happy to sort out the final night DJs if needed?
Ralph: How's your Top Rock singles & albums chart rundown coming along? Is this
still a feasible option? Don't worry if not, I know it will be a lot of work.
If not I'd still like to play out DSOTM before closedown.
Sarah: Is your phone software easy to use & could we get other live DJs to
download & use it as well?
Thoughts & ideas welcome.
Cheers,
Andy
Andy Gunton
Phone: 07545 264247
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<hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: [Hastings Rock] Re: Final Night
Sounds like a plan Sarah if it works.
I’ll use the official Rock and metal charts from 1994 onwards.
👍👍
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On 19 May 2020, at 18:21, Sarah Shirley
<sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I don’t mind hosting part of the evening. I am set up for taking phonecalls or
any voice communications for that matter from a phone (this is plumbed in via
an iRIG2 and not using the phone speaker) ..... so in theory we can have a
number of DJs at the same time.
Me and Tony Davis are going to test this out over this coming weekend because
we were going to try it on the final Retro Rock Show.
I have no idea what form this would take for final night but we would just need
to work out some sort of signal for me to hit the play button.
Its another option.
Sarah
From: Ralph (Redacted sender "ralphwinser" for DMARC)
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 4:52 PM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Hastings Rock] Re: Final Night
Ok if find out and sort a list then we will see which tracks each DJ needs. I
bet most have them anyway.
Which chart should I use.
Official album/ singles chart. Or
Official Rock album/ singles charts
R
I don’t mind compiling it any way and if it gets used then fine. If not I’ll
use it for a HR History show next time.
R
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On 19 May 2020, at 14:36, Andy Gunton
<andygunton@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:andygunton@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Nice idea Ralph, but that would take quite a lot of work to sort out, unless
you're volunteering of course? 😉
We'd need to collect all of the music & make sure the relevant DJ on the night
had it.
My understanding is that only Richard Stack is using the HR database, all other
DJs are using what has been sent to them, or their personal collections. Please
correct me if that's not right.
My original thought was to try & find a way to use Zoom, or similar, for DJs to
be on screen & maybe announce some tracks, and have a chat about the broadcast.
I'm not sure how we'd actually broadcast that & the live audio stream at the
same time, as I understand there's a time lag.
Also, how would we broadcast the video part so that listeners could see it, but
not be involved themselves, for security reasons?
Incidentally, my idea was to play out DSOTM in the run up to midnight, not
afterwards, but not be too precious about it finishing dead on midnight.
Steve: Have you got any idea which DJs are on, or available, for the final
night?
Thought & ideas welcome.
Andy
Andy Gunton
Phone: 07545 264247
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Subject: [Hastings Rock] Re: Final Night
** Hastings Rock Radio **
How about playing a track from the number 1 Rock album and the number 1 Rock
single of the last 27 years HR had been on Air ?
That should give a good 54 tracks to play out on the last night.
🎸🎸🎸
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On 18 May 2020, at 19:57, jon bird
<hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
** Hastings Rock Radio **
From a technical point of view, I don't think we need to get overly excited
around the security issues of Zoom. I get why you wouldn't want to conduct
your sensitive business meetings with it for those reasons but for what we
want it'll probably be fine. Can't add much more on the subject, I've been
involved as a participant in a couple of them now but have never set one up.
Suspect it's fairly easy though.
Simon may well have a point re audio quality, I found when setting up
Teamviewer for the remote studio access thing that it's pretty poor where
music is concerned, being more geared up for voice conferences which don't
need such high bit rates. Zoom may well be set up in a similar vein but I've
no experience to confirm or deny this. Obviously won't affect what is going
out "over the air" mind just what the participants hear.
Sarah raised this idea prior to the broadcast, we had a brief email chat as I
raised a possible alternative (if you weren't fussed about video) about it
outside the group but I'll summarise it here:
At the back of the guide I produced for DJ's remoting into the studio is a
section on an alternative audio setup using some software called "mumble"
which was included there to improve the DJ's audio link to the studio. It's
basically a low latency audio chat system (think Zoom without the video but
(probably) higher quality audio).
The server is all set up here, downside is everyone needs to install the
client software - I can lift from this guide but it's added complexity so
Zoom may be easier from that perspective. Plus I think having video might be
quite nice for everyone who's been involved this year to see each other....
In message
<f823201f-c134-49c8-2ea0-d4e06d02050c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:f823201f-c134-49c8-2ea0-d4e06d02050c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>,
sfhrock <sfhrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:sfhrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> writes
Andy,
Sounds like a good idea though be warned ....
I have used Zoom once when the DLWP had a staff meeting following
lockdown. Twenty four people 'attended' and it went very well. Many of
the people were not computer literate yet we all installed the app and
connected to the meeting. Once Zoom id installed, a meeting is easy to
access by a simple meeting ID sent out by the organiser. A great tool I
thought but their is one problem. The ease of access is its downfall.
Security is very poor. The only thing preventing anyone and his wife
accessing it is the code.
We are not allowed to use it at work or for work related matters.
You may have heard in the news recently, there was a group called the
'tum de dum society' (or something similar), an Archers fan club. They
published a meeting ID on twitter for one of their on-line get
togethers. Big mistake. Loads of people outside the group logged in
exposing themselves, all sorts of porn , whatever. They had to close
the meeting. We obviously do not want that!
Using Zoom therefore hinges on whether you can have two tiers of
access, one tier that can view but not participate (our audience) and
another (us) that can do both.
The meeting needs to be controlled so in our DLWP meeting, the chair
asked everyone to mute (otherwise the sound is chaotic). Then if you
wanted to speak, you raised your hand and would be invited by the
chair. This worked very well indeed.
I'm not sure Zoom will support music quality audio. It may be better in
any case to feed Zoom audio to our stream as part of a 'programme' of
music, so zoom sound is invited in rather than be the main programme
output itself. Obviously the Zoom part is only valid for those with a
PC or phone so we would need to remain aware that not everyone would be
able to see.
How about this as an idea. We could do a sort of 'juke box jury'. Play
a few new songs perhaps and talk about them, voting 'hit' or 'miss with
coloured cards , red/blue or something. We would all have to be
forewarned at least of who the bands were, if not the songs, so we
could do a bit of research beforehand.
Just an Idea?
Simon.
On 18/05/2020 10:58, Andy Gunton wrote:
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Morning all,
As we're over half way through the broadcast I thought I'd raise the
subject of what we want to do on the final night, Friday 29th May.
We've left the programme schedule free for the final 5 hours just in
case.
I know it was briefly mentioned a while ago about trying to do
something a little different during the final hours of the
broadcast.
I seem to remember that some kind of Zoom (or similar) event was
mentioned that we could be try to do, which may enable some DJs to
get involved who haven't been able to do live shows this year, me
for example ?
I don't really have any experience with Zoom, which seems to be the
most popular way of going about this atm, so if anyone has any info
about how you go about using it, or any alternative options, please
let us know.
How would we broadcast our possible Zoom chat so it fitted in with
the music, and so listeners could see us?
One problem with Zoom, as I understand it, is that it cuts out after
approx 40 mins unless you have a Pro account, which I presume you
pay for.
I think it would be great if we could do something along these
lines, even if it's for just a portion of the evening.
Of course, one difference to previous final nights is that we don't
actually have to finish at midnight....
One idea I did have as to how to actually end the broadcast would be
to play out the whole of 'Dark Side of The Moon', something we did a
few years ago when we finished with the Top 50 albums.
That went down very well, and it might be good to do that again as
we're not bound by our usual 'restrictions'.
Obviously someone would need to play it out via their CD player, but
I'm sure that's easy to sort out.
Just a thought.
It would be good to get this sorted, as best as possible, so that we
can start to announce it. Although I think if we did decide to play
out DSOTM, that we keep that bit under our hats until the time
comes.
Any thoughts, or other ideas?
Cheers,
Andy
Andy Gunton
Phone: 07545 264247
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