Andy,
I agree with the local DJ idea as many of us will have been involved for
long time but never have experienced a broadcast quite like this.
I think for the anchors it will be a busy programme as they will control
the guests, playing the music, doing the housekeeping activities and
making sure everything comes together from a technical point of view and
effectively driving the programme along, so they need to be comfortable
with that.
Then we will need a list of those who want to be guests. They would need
to pair up with the anchors; probably with those who have a bit of a
rapport with each other to help keep it moving and relaxed.
The only other thing I will say is the anchors would need to keep a
tight check on time. It will be very easy for each guest and hence the
segment to overrun and we do not want that. It would make it stressful
for everyone. So the anchors need to push the guests along if they are
talking a bit too much and the guest's slot is starting to overrun.
With Mumble, it should be possible to have all three guests on together
if a group wanted to do it that way.
I am happy to be a guest.
Simon.
On 24/05/2020 13:05, Andy Gunton wrote:
Ralph: In the password, the O is the capital letter 'O', not the
number zero. That stopped me the first time.
I also think this is a great idea, well done Simon, if we can get it
all to work ok.
I've managed to download & set up the Mumble app, so presumably I'll
now be able to connect to the live DJ?
We're still working on which DJs will be doing the slots, but this
will hopefully enable those DJs who can't be live on the night to get
involved, including those of us who've not been involved at all this
year, which is what I wanted to try & do all along.
I'd like to keep it to local DJs presenting the final night shows if
possible, but of course people like Martin Turner & Ray Copeland could
still be involved via the Mumble app if they wanted to be.
So hopefully 3 x 2 hour slots from 6pm & then play DSOTM around midnight.
Thoughts?
Cheers,
Andy
/
Andy Gunton
Phone: 07545 264247
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*From:* hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
behalf of Ralph <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 24 May 2020 12:02
*To:* hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [Hastings Rock] Re: Final Night
Hi Jon. I’m trying to set up mumble on iOS it’s fine until I hit
connect. I then get a message
Connection Rejected
Wrong Server Password
I’ve tried both root.oasw.co.uk and
NmJkZjYzYjA10WYy
Keeps coming back to same message.
Any ideas. Ralph
Sent from my iPhone
On 24 May 2020, at 08:09, sfhrock <sfhrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes this is not difficult to install and get running. I have done so
myself. It will eliminate the need to be able to handle telephone
calls. Therefore anyone with a home studio can make use of it if they
wish. It should also be better quality.
Simon.
On 23/05/2020 21:57, hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Here's the link to the Mumble setup I put together earlier--
http://www.oasw.co.uk/mpublic/hrock-bits/2020/mumble-setup.pdf
What this does is allows all the dj's to join an audio real time
"chat room". Acts a bit like a telephone conference call.
If you couple this with Simon's idea each "anchor" has the output of
this on their desk and fade can then chat with the dj's who are
participating in their segment.
You'd need people to set this up and test it in advance but everyone
can more or less do that themselves if they follow the instructions.
There's no need to coordinate anything with me it runs alongside the
main studio.
On 23 May 2020 21:00:01 BST, Tony Davis <tonydavis210852@xxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:tonydavis210852@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
** Hastings Rock Radio **
Who would anchors be because I’m not sure that anyone other than
Sarah can connect to a phone and we are not testing whether that
works or not until tomorrow. Think we may be over complicating
this and perhaps just shorter sets for djs and, if it works, the
possibility of others ringing into Sarah to present. We are
testing tomorrow the possibility of taking in the stream through
messenger.
Tony D
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*Sent: *23 May 2020 20:23
*To: *hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject: *[Hastings Rock] Re: Final Night
** Hastings Rock Radio **
Simon THAT. my friend is a cracking idea. I love that.
Thing is I do feel it may be a little complicated to get sorted
and broadcastable inside six days but...................
R
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> On 23 May 2020, at 19:46, sfhrock <sfhrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:sfhrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> ** Hastings Rock Radio **
>
> How about this for an idea?
>
> The evening is spilt into segments. Just to outline some
terminology to
> make it easier to explain, each segment is hosted by an
'anchor'. The
> criteria for being an anchor is that you can present a
programme from
> home and put a phone call on air.
>
> In each segment there are 'guest DJs', say up to
three,depending how
> long each segment is.
>
> Each guest DJ presents a set; three or four tracks, could be their
> choice, whatever.
>
> This could be as a straight set so they are left to present
down the
> phone with the anchor simply playing the tracks, or in
conversation with
> the anchor, maybe talking about the chosen tracks perhaps or
reading out
> dedications etc.
>
> Each segment is produced by the anchor in conjunction with
their guest
> DJs, so it is entirely up to them how they organise the
tracks, who is
> saying what etc. That way no one has to try and produce the whole
> evening, which would be a nightmare.
>
> If we had three people that could act as anchors and each had
a two hour
> segment we would get 12 DJs including anchors in the 6 hour
slot. If
> there are more that want to be part of it we may have to start
earlier.
> If there are those that would like to do a show on their own
without
> guests, than they can but they have much shorter segment.
>
> It sound complicated but if each group produces only their
segment, then
> it should not be too onerous. Also, with each group producing
their own
> segment, the segments will probably each sound slightly
different, which
> would be more interesting to listen to and keep people
listening through
> the evening.
>
> I think just leaving a message on the phone, whilst it is a
lot simpler,
> is not going to sound that special to be honest.
>
> Each group would need to think about how the guests could hear
the track
> playing, unless the anchor is controlling through
conversation, but all
> of that would be up to each group to work out.
>
> Ambitious yes, but it would be a bit different and maybe
interesting to
> listen to?
>
> Simon.
>
>
>> On 22/05/2020 21:20, sfhrock wrote:
>> ** Hastings Rock Radio **
>>
>> The ads could be taken out as I have done for JD's Rock and
Roll but six
>> hours is rather a lot to go through and the programme is
usually a bit
>> chaotic. I don't think it will fit very well with the times
either. It
>> would just remind everyone of what they are missing. Did some
of it come
>> from the Carlisle?
>>
>> Maybe we could have a number of DJs doing short stints rather
like we do
>> anyway on the last Friday, particularly from those who have
contributed
>> this year.
>>
>> I think using Jon's virtual studio facility would work quite
well for
>> this and allow a bit more variety of voices. Richard Stack
seems to have
>> mastered it very well. Unsurprisingly a bit shaky at the
start but you
>> would not have any idea he was using it now. He sounds just
as good as
>> anyone.
>>
>> Also, how about asking for dedications? Robojock is Ok but it
does not
>> allow someone to dedicate a song for someone else,
friend/loved one -
>> especially good if they are geo isolated from each other at
this time.
>> In fact we could say that any requests we play will only be
played if
>> they are dedications to someone else (obviously we would need
take this
>> on trust).
>>
>> For those with home studios with telephone connectivity,
other DJs could
>> contribute by phone though this would need a bit of production,
>> particularly if the idea ran across slots, i.e who was going
to speak to
>> who and at what time to make sure no repetition and as many
are included
>> as possible. They could be invited to choose a few favourites
that they
>> could both talk about? This might be a bit complicated to
organise
>> though now I think about it but would be bit different to
the norm,
>> which might be a good thing at this time?
>>
>> Just a few ideas?
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>>
>>> On 22/05/2020 20:41, Ralph (Redacted sender ralphwinser for
DMARC) wrote:
>>> ** Hastings Rock Radio **
>>>
>>> Liking the jingle between DJs Jon.
>>> Another thought and by far the easiest option. Play out last
years last night. I guess it’s in the archives I know it’s not
the best option but...... adverts would be a problem I guess.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 22 May 2020, at 19:33, jon bird
<hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ** Hastings Rock Radio **
>>>>
>>>> Very quickly because I need to be somewhere else (not
physically obviously!).
>>>>
>>>> I've already mentioned the Mumble/voice comms thing as an
option so I
>>>> won't repeat that again here but happy to support setting
that up if
>>>> people want to give that a try.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to suggest that we forget the Zoom/video chat
idea, as the
>>>>> slight time lag would make it a problem & we want things
to be as easy as
>>>>> possible.
>>>> Before we dismiss the Zoom thing, it was mentioned about
how listeners
>>>> would be able to see the DJs on this. Of the couple of
sesssions I've been
>>>> involved with it was as a passive viewer - one of several
hundred in fact
>>>> watching 6-8 people on screen. Which is basically what you
are talking
>>>> about here. However I suspect you may have to pay to
accomodate more than
>>>> a few people and/or go over the 40 minute limit but I can't
really help
>>>> any further than that.
>>>>
>>>>> Nick has assured me that we don't need the hour between
live DJs, as long
>>>>> as we make sure they log out & in properly.
>>>>> This should only take minutes, if that, so we could maybe
let Robojock
>>>>> play one track between DJs & then log in at the end of
that track, unless
>>>>> it's a long one!
>>>>> How does that sound? Will that work?
>>>>>
>>>> Re: Tony's point about requests, that's easily done, we'll
just disable
>>>> the request page for the evening. It's only available
during periods when
>>>> we take requests anyway...
>>>>
>>>> Personally I think having Robojock kick in at the end of
every show for
>>>> potentially just a few seconds of a track will be a bit
rubbish. What I
>>>> think you want is a longish (say a minute) jingle/backing
track with a bit
>>>> of a voiceover - a bit like the "please hold, you call is
important to us"
>>>> but more "we're just getting ready for the next show, stand
by....". That
>>>> just runs up until the next DJ connects up - which will
hopefully be
>>>> within seconds of the previous one disconnecting. If not,
once the
>>>> announcement track is over, the default would be to drop
back to
>>>> automation (eg. presenter having technical difficulties). I
can easily set
>>>> that up, just needs someone to record something suitable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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