I like the idea of DSOTM. Maybe we could actually start it at midnight,
unless we have run out of ideas before?
Keep it a surprise?
Simon.
On 23/05/2020 13:12, Andy Gunton wrote:
To try & sum things up, and please correct me if I forget something:--
Ralph: Yes, I think that might be a bit repetitive, so let's give the
chart run down a miss this time. Thanks for trying anyway.
Jon.B: I also like the idea of the jingle between DJs to save Robojock
butting in.
Tony B does this very well - Any chance of knocking something up
please Tony?
I'd like other DJs to be able to phone in, so maybe worth looking at
your Mumble idea.
Simon: I agree about DJs doing shorter slots, so we can fit more in.
Maybe 60/90 minute slots?
Good idea about encouraging requests/dedications too.
Maybe the DJs could have free choice of music, within reason of course
& maybe use the Top 100 as a guide?
I know Simon Veness will have done a rundown of these tracks already,
but they are Classics after all.
No one has yet commented on my idea to play out with DSOTM in full.
Any thoughts on that?
Nick: Any thoughts on all of this?
I'll put something on the HR DJ message board to see who might want to
get involved. We won't be able to use everyone.
Steve has agreed to sort the DJ line up out as per usual.
Cheers,
Andy
/
Andy Gunton
Phone: 07545 264247
/
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*From:* hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
behalf of Tony Davis <tonydavis210852@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 22 May 2020 22:23
*To:* hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [Hastings Rock] Re: Final Night
Happy to give it a go. I think I still have the artists I put together
for last year's live gigs
Tony D
On Fri, 22 May 2020, 18:39 Ralph, <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Andy and all.
I have looked in to the chart and completed both single and album
best selling Rock chart so far up to 2007.
My issue is that the is too much band repartition coming up and
wouldn’t make good listening. Eg. 1993 single and album Meat Loaf.
1994/5 Single and album Bon Jovi.
1997 98 99 albums Metallica.
Compiling from UK Rock and Metal charts from the Official UK chart
company
Don’t think it’ll work, I’d switch off to be honest as it is not
Rock Party enough.
Perhaps the guys who did the HR roadshows can come up with some
floor fillers for a party night feel.
Ralph.
Sent from my iPhone
On 22 May 2020, at 10:12, Andy Gunton <andygunton@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:andygunton@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Ok, let's try & get this sorted as we only have a week to go.
I'm going to suggest that we forget the Zoom/video chat idea, as
the slight time lag would make it a problem & we want things to
be as easy as possible.
We have 6 hours from when Jon Robson finishes at 6pm until
midnight & closedown.
Nick has assured me that we don't need the hour between live DJs,
as long as we make sure they log out & in properly.
This should only take minutes, if that, so we could maybe let
Robojock play one track between DJs & then log in at the end of
that track, unless it's a long one!
How does that sound? Will that work?
I'll put something on the HR DJ message board to see which DJs
might like to be involved. Obviously we'll only be able to use a
few, and only a few could actually do it anyway, but I want to at
least give them the option.
Steve: Would you be happy to sort out the final night DJs if needed?
Ralph: How's your Top Rock singles & albums chart rundown coming
along? Is this still a feasible option? Don't worry if not, I
know it will be a lot of work.
If not I'd still like to play out DSOTM before closedown.
Sarah: Is your phone software easy to use & could we get other
live DJs to download & use it as well?
Thoughts & ideas welcome.
Cheers,
Andy
/
Andy Gunton
Phone: 07545 264247
/
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*From:* hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on behalf of Ralph
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
*Sent:* 19 May 2020 18:30
*To:* hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
*Subject:* [Hastings Rock] Re: Final Night
Sounds like a plan Sarah if it works.
I’ll use the official Rock and metal charts from 1994 onwards.
👍👍
Sent from my iPhone
On 19 May 2020, at 18:21, Sarah Shirley <sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I don’t mind hosting part of the evening. I am set up for taking
phonecalls or any voice communications for that matter from a
phone (this is plumbed in via an iRIG2 and not using the phone
speaker) ..... so in theory we can have a number of DJs at the
same time.
Me and Tony Davis are going to test this out over this coming
weekend because we were going to try it on the final Retro Rock
Show.
I have no idea what form this would take for final night but we
would just need to work out some sort of signal for me to hit
the play button.
Its another option.
Sarah
*From:* Ralph (Redacted sender "ralphwinser" for DMARC)
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 19, 2020 4:52 PM
*To:* hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [Hastings Rock] Re: Final Night
Ok if find out and sort a list then we will see which tracks
each DJ needs. I bet most have them anyway.
Which chart should I use.
Official album/ singles chart. Or
Official Rock album/ singles charts
R
I don’t mind compiling it any way and if it gets used then fine.
If not I’ll use it for a HR History show next time.
R
Sent from my iPhone
On 19 May 2020, at 14:36, Andy Gunton <andygunton@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:andygunton@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Nice idea Ralph, but that would take quite a lot of work to
sort out, unless you're volunteering of course? 😉
We'd need to collect all of the music & make sure the relevant
DJ on the night had it.
My understanding is that only Richard Stack is using the HR
database, all other DJs are using what has been sent to them,
or their personal collections. Please correct me if that's not
right.
My original thought was to try & find a way to use Zoom, or
similar, for DJs to be on screen & maybe announce some tracks,
and have a chat about the broadcast.
I'm not sure how we'd actually broadcast that & the live audio
stream at the same time, as I understand there's a time lag.
Also, how would we broadcast the video part so that listeners
could see it, but not be involved themselves, for security reasons?
Incidentally, my idea was to play out DSOTM in the run up to
midnight, not afterwards, but not be too precious about it
finishing dead on midnight.
Steve: Have you got any idea which DJs are on, or available,
for the final night?
Thought & ideas welcome.
Andy
/
Andy Gunton
Phone: 07545 264247
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*From:* hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on behalf of Ralph
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
*Sent:* 19 May 2020 14:07
*To:* hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
*Subject:* [Hastings Rock] Re: Final Night
** Hastings Rock Radio **
How about playing a track from the number 1 Rock album and the
number 1 Rock single of the last 27 years HR had been on Air ?
That should give a good 54 tracks to play out on the last night.
🎸🎸🎸
Sent from my iPhone
> On 18 May 2020, at 19:57, jon bird
<hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> ** Hastings Rock Radio **
>
> From a technical point of view, I don't think we need to get
overly excited around the security issues of Zoom. I get why
you wouldn't want to conduct your sensitive business meetings
with it for those reasons but for what we want it'll probably
be fine. Can't add much more on the subject, I've been involved
as a participant in a couple of them now but have never set one
up. Suspect it's fairly easy though.
>
> Simon may well have a point re audio quality, I found when
setting up Teamviewer for the remote studio access thing that
it's pretty poor where music is concerned, being more geared up
for voice conferences which don't need such high bit rates.
Zoom may well be set up in a similar vein but I've no
experience to confirm or deny this. Obviously won't affect what
is going out "over the air" mind just what the participants hear.
>
> Sarah raised this idea prior to the broadcast, we had a brief
email chat as I raised a possible alternative (if you weren't
fussed about video) about it outside the group but I'll
summarise it here:
>
> At the back of the guide I produced for DJ's remoting into
the studio is a section on an alternative audio setup using
some software called "mumble" which was included there to
improve the DJ's audio link to the studio. It's basically a low
latency audio chat system (think Zoom without the video but
(probably) higher quality audio).
>
> The server is all set up here, downside is everyone needs to
install the client software - I can lift from this guide but
it's added complexity so Zoom may be easier from that
perspective. Plus I think having video might be quite nice for
everyone who's been involved this year to see each other....
>
>
> In message
<f823201f-c134-49c8-2ea0-d4e06d02050c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:f823201f-c134-49c8-2ea0-d4e06d02050c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>,
sfhrock <sfhrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:sfhrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> writes
>>
>> Andy,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sounds like a good idea though be warned ....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I have used Zoom once when the DLWP had a staff meeting
following
>> lockdown. Twenty four people 'attended' and it went very
well. Many of
>> the people were not computer literate yet we all installed
the app and
>> connected to the meeting. Once Zoom id installed, a meeting
is easy to
>> access by a simple meeting ID sent out by the organiser. A
great tool I
>> thought but their is one problem. The ease of access is its
downfall.
>> Security is very poor. The only thing preventing anyone and
his wife
>> accessing it is the code.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We are not allowed to use it at work or for work related
matters.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You may have heard in the news recently, there was a group
called the
>> 'tum de dum society' (or something similar), an Archers fan
club. They
>> published a meeting ID on twitter for one of their on-line get
>> togethers. Big mistake. Loads of people outside the group
logged in
>> exposing themselves, all sorts of porn , whatever. They had
to close
>> the meeting. We obviously do not want that!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Using Zoom therefore hinges on whether you can have two tiers of
>> access, one tier that can view but not participate (our
audience) and
>> another (us) that can do both.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The meeting needs to be controlled so in our DLWP meeting,
the chair
>> asked everyone to mute (otherwise the sound is chaotic).
Then if you
>> wanted to speak, you raised your hand and would be invited
by the
>> chair. This worked very well indeed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure Zoom will support music quality audio. It may
be better in
>> any case to feed Zoom audio to our stream as part of a
'programme' of
>> music, so zoom sound is invited in rather than be the main
programme
>> output itself. Obviously the Zoom part is only valid for
those with a
>> PC or phone so we would need to remain aware that not
everyone would be
>> able to see.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> How about this as an idea. We could do a sort of 'juke box
jury'. Play
>> a few new songs perhaps and talk about them, voting 'hit' or
'miss with
>> coloured cards , red/blue or something. We would all have to be
>> forewarned at least of who the bands were, if not the songs,
so we
>> could do a bit of research beforehand.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Just an Idea?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18/05/2020 10:58, Andy Gunton wrote:
>> P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}
>> Morning all,
>>
>> As we're over half way through the broadcast I thought I'd
raise the
>> subject of what we want to do on the final night, Friday
29th May.
>> We've left the programme schedule free for the final 5 hours
just in
>> case.
>>
>> I know it was briefly mentioned a while ago about trying to do
>> something a little different during the final hours of the
>> broadcast.
>> I seem to remember that some kind of Zoom (or similar) event was
>> mentioned that we could be try to do, which may enable some
DJs to
>> get involved who haven't been able to do live shows this
year, me
>> for example ?
>>
>> I don't really have any experience with Zoom, which seems to
be the
>> most popular way of going about this atm, so if anyone has
any info
>> about how you go about using it, or any alternative options,
please
>> let us know.
>> How would we broadcast our possible Zoom chat so it fitted
in with
>> the music, and so listeners could see us?
>>
>> One problem with Zoom, as I understand it, is that it cuts
out after
>> approx 40 mins unless you have a Pro account, which I
presume you
>> pay for.
>>
>> I think it would be great if we could do something along these
>> lines, even if it's for just a portion of the evening.
>>
>> Of course, one difference to previous final nights is that
we don't
>> actually have to finish at midnight....
>>
>> One idea I did have as to how to actually end the broadcast
would be
>> to play out the whole of 'Dark Side of The Moon', something
we did a
>> few years ago when we finished with the Top 50 albums.
>> That went down very well, and it might be good to do that
again as
>> we're not bound by our usual 'restrictions'.
>> Obviously someone would need to play it out via their CD
player, but
>> I'm sure that's easy to sort out.
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> It would be good to get this sorted, as best as possible, so
that we
>> can start to announce it. Although I think if we did decide
to play
>> out DSOTM, that we keep that bit under our hats until the time
>> comes.
>>
>> Any thoughts, or other ideas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> Andy Gunton
>>
>> Phone: 07545 264247
>
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