That is not a mac book issue it is the operating software it left I think in
catoliena, but it could be one before that.
From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 09:10
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: New mac user
One thing I don’t like about the MacBook Pro machines - from 2015 on - is that
there is no way to shutdown the computer from the keyboard itself, no keyboard
shortcut combination in other words.
From my iMac for example I can hold down ctrl-option-command and eject to
shutdown the computer. I suppose this could also be done on the MacBook if one
chose to pair a Magic keyboard with the machine.
On 24 Nov 2020, at 11:24 pm, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Hi, I can add to this. They are accessible but I don’t like them and many
sited and blind alike don’t. That being said though it is accessible. You can
either touch approximately where the control is you want or you can swipe back
and forth and then double tap.
What I do is I use a separate Magic Keyboard which has all the
physical keys. As many may or may not know the MacBook I think 2017 and on
have horrible keyboards. They feel like you’re typing on mushy peas. This has
been addressed I’m told with recent models, I'm’ excited to try the newer
keyboard which is basically a magic keyboard on the brand new M1 MacBook Pro.
I have a 2017 MacBook Pro and the keyboard is the worst I’ve ever used, apple
should be ashamed. My favorite today is my 2016 MacBook Pro 15 inch model but
I’m hopeful the new model compares. I would not be concerned about using the
Touch Bar if you have to it’s totally doable just in my opinion not the most
enjoyable user experience but others may disagree.
Thanks
On Nov 24, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Shawn Krasniuk (Redacted sender "bbsshawn" for
DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
wrote:
Hi Manoj. Welcome to the Mac. Essencially what a touch bar MacBook Pro is is
instead of having function keys, they're replaced by an iphone/ipad like touch
bar. I don't have one but apparently they are accessible for the blind.
Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility
Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with
your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add
you.
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbsshawn@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bbsshawn@xxxxxxxxxx>
On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
So what is a touch bar mac and how accessible is it for the blind?
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:35 PM John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
If it’s a Touch Bar Mac, you will need to hold down the command key and press
the power button 3 times. If it doesn’t have a Touch Bar or you get an external
keyboard, then Command-F5 will work.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com ;<http://www.macfortheblind.com/>
APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL, ACSP
Apple Certified Trainer, ACT
Apple Performance Partner
MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Hi John,
Thank you so much for your help. Just a curious question, you said depending
on the laptop. So I am getting a macbook pro with 8 GB Ram and 512 GB
storage. So will I be able to activate voiceover using command f5 or will
need to hold down the command key and press the power button at the top right
corner 3 times quickly as you suggested?
Manoj
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:00 PM John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Hi Manoj,
Welcome to the list. I hope you find it helpful for you.
You will need to power on the laptop by pressing the power button the
first time. Then, you should here a recorded voice that gives you the option
to turn on VoiceOver for the setup process. Depending on what kind of Laptop
you have, you will either press command-Function key 5 or you will hold the
command key down and press the SIRI button at the top right corner of the
keyboard, which is also the power button, three quick times to activate SIRI.
You will have speech throughout the entire setup process.
and Be sure to navigate and listen to all screens. Holding down control and
option keys with the right or left arrow will enable you to navigate the
screens, and pressing control-option-spacebar will active the, Next, or,
Continue, buttons on any screen.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com ;<http://www.macfortheblind.com/>
APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL, ACSP
Apple Certified Trainer, ACT
Apple Performance Partner
MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
On Nov 23, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Manoj
************
You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list.
The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to
their list subscription is:
//www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind
The list archive is located at
//www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/
All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to:
john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
--
http://www.swar-ras.com ;<http://www.swar-ras.com/>
