Actually:
* hit command shift a to get to the apps folder. I never ever put apps
on the desktop which can be accessed with command shift d. Command
option l is for downloads and command shift o is documents. Command
shift h is for home. Command shift c is your computer's list, or your
devices list.
* you can get to the links list in safari with vo plus u( control option
plus u) then use your left and right arrow to cycle. You can then type
in part of the link name, or
* you can hit command vo l and command vo shift l to move by link or
* hit left and right arrow to get into quick nav and hit l. If that does
not work hit vo q to turn on quick nav keys
* vo plus a will do a say all
* control will stop and restart speech as long as you are in the same
window. You cannot rewind and fast forward that speech though.
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On 24 Nov 2020, at 17:35, Katie Epperson wrote:
Let me try to answer your questions. One, you can just use copy and paste to put an app on your desktop, or you can add it to the dock while it's open. Two. I actually don't know about a links list, but I think you can use the item chooser. Three. I think the control key is used to both start and stop speech. If you pause something, you can hit the control key and it starts reading again. Four. To make voiceover read everything, Chris your voiceover keys plus A. if you ever need more help, I'll be more than happy to help you. I love teaching people about these things.
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On Nov 24, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi friends,
Finally I was able to lay my hands on my new macbook pro and guess what I am very excited about it. It is a touch bar laptop without function keys and I was able to set up the computer using voiceover.
So I have a couple of many questions to follow:
1. How do I get an app on to the desktop for easier access?
2. Is there a way to bring a links list in safari as we do in windows?
3. Can we silence the voiceover instantly and start from where it left offas we do with Jaws or NVDA in windows?
4. How do we make voiceover read the entire document?
Thanks and warm regards,
Manoj
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 2:27 PM Dane Trethowan <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
As I understand it, pressing the power button puts the machine to sleep and holding down turns the power off thus your work you may be currently doing at the time doesn’t get saved to the drive.
On 25 Nov 2020, at 6:03 am, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I could be wrong here but can’t you just press the power button? I think that’s a press and a menu pops up or press and hold to shutdown hard deal.
Thanks
On Nov 24, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
One thing I don’t like about the MacBook Pro machines - from 2015 on - is that there is no way to shutdown the computer from the keyboard itself, no keyboard shortcut combination in other words.
From my iMac for example I can hold down ctrl-option-command and eject to shutdown the computer. I suppose this could also be done on the MacBook if one chose to pair a Magic keyboard with the machine.
On 24 Nov 2020, at 11:24 pm, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi, I can add to this. They are accessible but I don’t like them and many sited and blind alike don’t. That being said though it is accessible. You can either touch approximately where the control is you want or you can swipe back and forth and then double tap.
What I do is I use a separate Magic Keyboard which has all the physical keys. As many may or may not know the MacBook I think 2017 and on have horrible keyboards. They feel like you’re typing on mushy peas. This has been addressed I’m told with recent models, I'm’ excited to try the newer keyboard which is basically a magic keyboard on the brand new M1 MacBook Pro. I have a 2017 MacBook Pro and the keyboard is the worst I’ve ever used, apple should be ashamed. My favorite today is my 2016 MacBook Pro 15 inch model but I’m hopeful the new model compares. I would not be concerned about using the Touch Bar if you have to it’s totally doable just in my opinion not the most enjoyable user experience but others may disagree.
Thanks
On Nov 24, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Shawn Krasniuk (Redacted sender "bbsshawn" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Manoj. Welcome to the Mac. Essencially what a touch bar MacBook Pro is is instead of having function keys, they're replaced by an iphone/ipad like touch bar. I don't have one but apparently they are accessible for the blind.
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So what is a touch bar mac and how accessible is it for the blind?
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:35 PM John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:If it’s a Touch Bar Mac, you will need to hold down the command key and press the power button 3 times. If it doesn’t have a Touch Bar or you get an external keyboard, then Command-F5 will work.
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi John,
Thank you so much for your help. Just a curious question, you said depending on the laptop. So I am getting a macbook pro with 8 GB Ram and 512 GB storage. So will I be able to activate voiceover using command f5 or will need to hold down the command key and press the power button at the top right corner 3 times quickly as you suggested?
Manoj
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:00 PM John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Manoj,
Welcome to the list. I hope you find it helpful for you.
You will need to power on the laptop by pressing the power button the first time. Then, you should here a recorded voice that gives you the option to turn on VoiceOver for the setup process. Depending on what kind of Laptop you have, you will either press command-Function key 5 or you will hold the command key down and press the SIRI button at the top right corner of the keyboard, which is also the power button, three quick times to activate SIRI. You will have speech throughout the entire setup process.
and Be sure to navigate and listen to all screens. Holding down control and option keys with the right or left arrow will enable you to navigate the screens, and pressing control-option-spacebar will active the, Next, or, Continue, buttons on any screen.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
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Mac for the Blind
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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