aGreed. This move is fine for me. I have an eject key on my keyboard,
Ok, I have no power button on my air which is weird, but it works.
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On 24 Nov 2020, at 9:17, Dane Trethowan wrote:
To be honest it doesn’t matter what type of issue it is, fact is that a shutdown or restart for that matter from a keyboard shortcut can’t be performed from the keyboard of the computer itself, a feature I greatly miss but no good going on about it as I don’t see the people at Apple too worried about fixing the issue even if they wanted to, I mean how are you going to emulate a non existent eject key on a keyboard?
On 25 Nov 2020, at 4:13 am, <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxx> <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That is not a mac book issue it is the operating software it left I think in catoliena, but it could be one before that.
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One thing I don’t like about the MacBook Pro machines - from 2015 on - is that there is no way to shutdown the computer from the keyboard itself, no keyboard shortcut combination in other words.
From my iMac for example I can hold down ctrl-option-command and eject to shutdown the computer. I suppose this could also be done on the MacBook if one chose to pair a Magic keyboard with the machine.
On 24 Nov 2020, at 11:24 pm, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi, I can add to this. They are accessible but I don’t like them and many sited and blind alike don’t. That being said though it is accessible. You can either touch approximately where the control is you want or you can swipe back and forth and then double tap.
What I do is I use a separate Magic Keyboard which has all the physical keys. As many may or may not know the MacBook I think 2017 and on have horrible keyboards. They feel like you’re typing on mushy peas. This has been addressed I’m told with recent models, I'm’ excited to try the newer keyboard which is basically a magic keyboard on the brand new M1 MacBook Pro. I have a 2017 MacBook Pro and the keyboard is the worst I’ve ever used, apple should be ashamed. My favorite today is my 2016 MacBook Pro 15 inch model but I’m hopeful the new model compares. I would not be concerned about using the Touch Bar if you have to it’s totally doable just in my opinion not the most enjoyable user experience but others may disagree.
Thanks
On Nov 24, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Shawn Krasniuk (Redacted sender "bbsshawn" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Manoj. Welcome to the Mac. Essencially what a touch bar MacBook Pro is is instead of having function keys, they're replaced by an iphone/ipad like touch bar. I don't have one but apparently they are accessible for the blind.
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
So what is a touch bar mac and how accessible is it for the blind?
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:35 PM John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:If it’s a Touch Bar Mac, you will need to hold down the command key and press the power button 3 times. If it doesn’t have a Touch Bar or you get an external keyboard, then Command-F5 will work.
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi John,
Thank you so much for your help. Just a curious question, you said depending on the laptop. So I am getting a macbook pro with 8 GB Ram and 512 GB storage. So will I be able to activate voiceover using command f5 or will need to hold down the command key and press the power button at the top right corner 3 times quickly as you suggested?
Manoj
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Hi Manoj,
Welcome to the list. I hope you find it helpful for you.
You will need to power on the laptop by pressing the power button the first time. Then, you should here a recorded voice that gives you the option to turn on VoiceOver for the setup process. Depending on what kind of Laptop you have, you will either press command-Function key 5 or you will hold the command key down and press the SIRI button at the top right corner of the keyboard, which is also the power button, three quick times to activate SIRI. You will have speech throughout the entire setup process.
and Be sure to navigate and listen to all screens. Holding down control and option keys with the right or left arrow will enable you to navigate the screens, and pressing control-option-spacebar will active the, Next, or, Continue, buttons on any screen.
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