Do a control option which is known as the v o keys and then h
So it is vo h and you get into the accessibility for voice over
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Also, I was trying to access the accessibility settings for VoiceOver and also
was trying to open my inbox on the Mail app, but for some reason voiceover just
kept saying inbox 20 unread messages despite me pressing the VO key plus space.
Even while trying to access the accessibility settings for voiceover, it just
kept reading things like back button forward button and show all button and
eventually it was showing an error message and not letting me open the voice
over settings. Is there something I’m doing wrong?
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On Nov 25, 2020, at 12:42 AM, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I always use the dock for managing Apps.
As Sarah quite rightly says, you can get to the “Apps” folder where all are
listed with command-shift-A anywhere from the finder.
If you want to make an “Alias” to a file, App etc then you can do that with
command-L and put that alias exactly where you want it.
You might like to make an “Alias” to your favourite music playlist for example.
The Desktop actually functions in a slightly different way on a Mac than on a
Windows machine, the desktop is where all your networks are shown, DVD devices
are shown, external hard drives, iCloud documents etc are shown.
Windows doesn’t put as much emphasis on the desktop as it once did, Apple have
lead the way in showing Microsoft and others better ways to manage information
such as searching etc.
On 25 Nov 2020, at 2:29 pm, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Actually:
* hit command shift a to get to the apps folder. I never ever put apps on
the desktop which can be accessed with command shift d. Command option l is for
downloads and command shift o is documents. Command shift h is for home.
Command shift c is your computer's list, or your devices list.
* you can get to the links list in safari with vo plus u( control option
plus u) then use your left and right arrow to cycle. You can then type in part
of the link name, or
* you can hit command vo l and command vo shift l to move by link or
* hit left and right arrow to get into quick nav and hit l. If that does
not work hit vo q to turn on quick nav keys
* vo plus a will do a say all
* control will stop and restart speech as long as you are in the same
window. You cannot rewind and fast forward that speech though.
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On 24 Nov 2020, at 17:35, Katie Epperson wrote:
Let me try to answer your questions. One, you can just use copy and paste to
put an app on your desktop, or you can add it to the dock while it's open. Two.
I actually don't know about a links list, but I think you can use the item
chooser. Three. I think the control key is used to both start and stop speech.
If you pause something, you can hit the control key and it starts reading
again. Four. To make voiceover read everything, Chris your voiceover keys plus
A. if you ever need more help, I'll be more than happy to help you. I love
teaching people about these things.
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On Nov 24, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Hi friends,
Finally I was able to lay my hands on my new macbook pro and guess what I am
very excited about it. It is a touch bar laptop without function keys and I was
able to set up the computer using voiceover.
So I have a couple of many questions to follow:
1. How do I get an app on to the desktop for easier access?
2. Is there a way to bring a links list in safari as we do in windows?
3. Can we silence the voiceover instantly and start from where it left offas we
do with Jaws or NVDA in windows?
4. How do we make voiceover read the entire document?
Thanks and warm regards,
Manoj
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 2:27 PM Dane Trethowan <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
As I understand it, pressing the power button puts the machine to sleep and
holding down turns the power off thus your work you may be currently doing at
the time doesn’t get saved to the drive.
On 25 Nov 2020, at 6:03 am, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
I could be wrong here but can’t you just press the power button? I think
that’s a press and a menu pops up or press and hold to shutdown hard deal.
Thanks
On Nov 24, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
One thing I don’t like about the MacBook Pro machines - from 2015 on - is that
there is no way to shutdown the computer from the keyboard itself, no keyboard
shortcut combination in other words.
From my iMac for example I can hold down ctrl-option-command and eject to
shutdown the computer. I suppose this could also be done on the MacBook if one
chose to pair a Magic keyboard with the machine.
On 24 Nov 2020, at 11:24 pm, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Hi, I can add to this. They are accessible but I don’t like them and many
sited and blind alike don’t. That being said though it is accessible. You can
either touch approximately where the control is you want or you can swipe back
and forth and then double tap.
What I do is I use a separate Magic Keyboard which has all the physical keys.
As many may or may not know the MacBook I think 2017 and on have horrible
keyboards. They feel like you’re typing on mushy peas. This has been
addressed I’m told with recent models, I'm’ excited to try the newer keyboard
which is basically a magic keyboard on the brand new M1 MacBook Pro. I have a
2017 MacBook Pro and the keyboard is the worst I’ve ever used, apple should be
ashamed. My favorite today is my 2016 MacBook Pro 15 inch model but I’m
hopeful the new model compares. I would not be concerned about using the Touch
Bar if you have to it’s totally doable just in my opinion not the most
enjoyable user experience but others may disagree.
Thanks
On Nov 24, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Shawn Krasniuk (Redacted sender "bbsshawn" for
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wrote:
Hi Manoj. Welcome to the Mac. Essencially what a touch bar MacBook Pro is is
instead of having function keys, they're replaced by an iphone/ipad like touch
bar. I don't have one but apparently they are accessible for the blind.
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
So what is a touch bar mac and how accessible is it for the blind?
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:35 PM John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
If it’s a Touch Bar Mac, you will need to hold down the command key and press
the power button 3 times. If it doesn’t have a Touch Bar or you get an external
keyboard, then Command-F5 will work.
Take Care
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Hi John,
Thank you so much for your help. Just a curious question, you said depending
on the laptop. So I am getting a macbook pro with 8 GB Ram and 512 GB
storage. So will I be able to activate voiceover using command f5 or will
need to hold down the command key and press the power button at the top right
corner 3 times quickly as you suggested?
Manoj
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:00 PM John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Hi Manoj,
Welcome to the list. I hope you find it helpful for you.
You will need to power on the laptop by pressing the power button the
first time. Then, you should here a recorded voice that gives you the option
to turn on VoiceOver for the setup process. Depending on what kind of Laptop
you have, you will either press command-Function key 5 or you will hold the
command key down and press the SIRI button at the top right corner of the
keyboard, which is also the power button, three quick times to activate SIRI.
You will have speech throughout the entire setup process.
and Be sure to navigate and listen to all screens. Holding down control and
option keys with the right or left arrow will enable you to navigate the
screens, and pressing control-option-spacebar will active the, Next, or,
Continue, buttons on any screen.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx
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