Working my way through emails Amy so this message may be redundant. PQ books are publisher quality books: books supplied by the publisher and put into the collection without ever touching a scanner, scannor, (the person who scans), or validator. Hope this helps. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Amy Goldring Tajalli To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:16 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission Cindy, I must have missed something along the way but what are PQ books. I know I should know but I don'. Sorry. Amy -- It if be now, 'tis not to come, If it be not to come, it will be now, If it be now now, Yet it will come. The readiness is all. Wm. Shakespeare -------------- Original message from Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>: -------------- Children's books, mostly, and possibly juvenile lit. Charts and diagrams in other books I would assume can be retained in PQ books, probably in their original format, whereas we've had to "translate" them into other formats, such > as words and paragraphs. > > Cindy > > --- On Fri, 8/8/08, Gary Petraccaro wrote: > > > From: Gary Petraccaro > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 10:34 PM > > What kind of books are these where the descriptions should > > be sought. I ask > > because many books I do have pictures and sometimes, I > > leave them out. > > Thanks. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ann McCay" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 4:54 PM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission > > > > > > > The probem I have with this is that there are times > > that publishers don't > > > give us words for pictures, and we don't have the > > luxury of using the > > > volunteer's work to get that information if > > we've lost that because we are > > > now supposed to get this from the publisher. That is > > true very recently > > > with > > > a publisher that I read from bookshare which was the > > publisher's copy. It > > > is > > > fine as we work toward a publisher copy that will give > > us what we want, > > > but > > > to say that this is so wonderful and we should only > > keep to publishers > > > right > > > now is way too soon, and to the point that I may not > > keep downloading only > > > publisher copies. The things that I didn't know > > after reading the > > > publisher > > > copy are things that I still don't know. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > > Of Laura Ann > > > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 1:33 PM > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ > > submission > > > > > > I agree Monica > > > > > > Thank you for posting this. > > > I look forward to the PQ books and the access it will > > give us to clean > > > scans > > > of books. > > > I appreciate publishers working with bookshare. > > > > > > I also appreciate the volunteers and the variety of > > books we can download. > > > I don't want to see books that are historical > > removed because new ones on > > > the topic might take there place. > > > Leave all the different types of books and let us > > decide what to download. > > > > > > And I dont' have a problem with PQ books replacing > > existing books scanned > > > by > > > us as volunteers. > > > I want the best quality book available. > > > We dont have the luxury of just going to a library or > > store and reading > > > the > > > copy off the shelf as you mentioned. > > > > > > I appreciate everyone's hard work to see the > > collection grows. > > > Laura Ann > > > > > > At 03:08 PM 8/8/2008, you wrote: > > >>Hi, Cindy. No one likes to have their time wasted > > or see what they > > >>worked on replaced. Having said that, a large > > number of books currently > > >>in the collection are nowhere near perfect. Keeping > > them for the sake > > >>of preserving someone's time isn't fair to > > the members of Bookshare > > >>both because it would create confusion when someone > > is searching for > > >>books and because we don't enjoy reading messed > > up books unless we have > > >>no other choice. Even books rated excellent > > aren't usually letter > > >>perfect, and a significant number have some serious > > issues. > > >> > > >>Cindy, you have the ability to grab a book from > > your library or > > >>bookstore and read it whenever you want to. You > > never have to worry > > >>about scannos, and you don't have the > > distraction of hearing non-words > > >>spoken in almost every paragraph. Yet you are the > > loudest voice asking > > >>for Bookshare to keep scanned books when a > > publisher-quality book is > > >>available. Yes, you may validate carefully from the > > print copy, and > > >>that's wonderful. You are not in the majority > > though, and Bookshare > > >>can't just keep books processed by you while > > getting rid of everyone > > >>else's. All of us here have put our money, > > time, and energy into > > >>preparing books for people to read. Yet we do this > > knowing that someone > > >>could come along and do a BSO of our book at any > > time. In this case, > > >>the publisher is doing a BSO, and who is more > > qualified to provide it > > >>than the publisher? > > >> > > >>You send your emails copied to Lisa and Pavi and > > would seem to speak > > >>for us. You don't speak for many of us because > > you don't have any > > >>concept of what it's like to have scanned books > > as your only source for > > >>reading material. If Bookshare had a magic button > > where they could > > >>replace every book with a perfect publisher quality > > version, I would > > >>celebrate and send the staff some champagne. There > > are a small number > > >>of books with hand-written picture descriptions > > that might be replaced, > > >>and you could contact Bookshare about those. There > > are literally > > >>thousands of books in the Bookshare collection that > > are barely legible > > >>right now. They would become a pleasure to read if > > replaced. Teachers > > >>want extremely clean scans for their students to > > read. The PQ books > > >>provide that and benefit adult readers as well. I > > just hope they will > > >>expand the program and that other publishers will > > work with Bookshare > > >>in the future. > > >> > > >> > > >>-- > > >>Monica Willyard > > >>Visit my blog at http://www.scannersguild.com > > >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email > > to > > >>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > subject line. To get a > > >>list of available commands, put the word > > 'help' by itself in the subject > > > line. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > subject line. 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