That's the way I shut my computer down in Windows 10, Evan.
Susan
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 12:56 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Windows 10 Nightmare
Hmmm, I never shut down my computer that way.
On my Windows 7 laptop, I go to the Desktop with Windows key and m, then hit
alt-f4. Then the list of options comes up with shutdown at the bottom.
I don't know whether that will work in Windows 10, but it might be worth a try.
Evan
Evan
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From: Roger Loran Bailey (Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 1:43 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Windows 10 Nightmare
By the way, related to this matter, I can't find a shut down button for my
computer now. With Windows 7 I would press the Windows key and go to the start
menu. I would then arrow once to the right and there was the shut down button
or I could arrow twice to the right and then arrow down four times for the
restart button. Despite the fact that Windows 10 was advertised as having an
even better start menu than Windows 7 I can't find a start menu at all. I press
the windows key and all I find is a search box and I have to type in the name
of an app to find it. Arrowing from that search box does nothing. So I have
been using the power switch to turn the computer on and off, but I understand
that is bad for the computer.
___
Carl Sagan
“Who is more humble? The scientist who looks at the universe with an open mind
and accepts whatever the universe has to teach us, or somebody who says
everything in this book must be considered the literal truth and never mind the
fallibility of all the human beings involved?”
― Carl Sagan
On 12/21/2019 11:20 AM, Roger Loran Bailey (Redacted sender
rogerbailey81 for DMARC) wrote:
Yesterday I overcame my procrastination and I am now wishing that ITo unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
hadn't. I remember that when I was using Windows XP I kept putting off
upgrading because of trepidation about learning a new operating system.
Then in 2014 my computer went kaput and I had to upgrade to Windows 7.
It was not as bad as I expected and I learned my way around Windows 7
pretty quickly. But despite that experience I have been putting off
upgrading to Windows 10 for the same reasons. Well, Windows 7 becomes
obsolete on January 14, so yesterday I prepared myself for a hassle
and downloaded Windows 10. I won't describe all the hassle that was
involved, but it was a big hassle, indeed. It also turns out that it
is a lot more different from Windows 7 than Windows 7 was different
from Windows XP, so I have a lot of learning to do. But let me
concentrate on the problems I am having related to Bookshare
volunteering. When I was installing Windows 10 the dialog informed me
that there were two apps on my computer that were not compatible with
Windows 10 and I would have to uninstall them before I could proceed.
One was JAWS 15. Fine, I don't use that anymore anyway. So I went
ahead and uninstalled it. However, The other caused me a good bit of
consternation. It was Open Book 9. That is my main number one tool for
scanning books for Bookshare and also for reading my snail mail. But I
couldn't otherwise continue, so I saved the book I am currently
working on to my documents and went ahead and uninstalled it. I was on
page 207 of a
357 page book. Because of that and another problem with JAWS that
cropped up after the installation I was going to call Freedom
Scientific technical support today and ask them about it, but I forgot
that they are not available on weekends and I will have to wait until
Monday. Not only do I now not have Open Book installed, but as far as
I can tell I have also lost the book that I saved and every other
document in my documents folder. I say as far as I can tell because I
thought I had also lost all of my bookmarks, but somehow I did manage
to restore those this morning. I have a bunch of documents that I
really did not want to lose, but relating to Bookshare I appear to
have lost three books that are either being proofread or are on the
checkout list and the book I was currently working on. As for the
books I have finished, well, if a proofreader has a problem with one
then, at least as of right now, I don't have a copy to check for them.
As for the one I was currently working on, I really hate to have done
207 pages worth of meticulous work on it only to lose it entirely or
not to be able to proceed on it. Frankly, if Open Book is incompatible
with Windows 10 I would have expected that by now it would have been
mentioned on this list, so I was not expecting that at all. The
obvious solution is to switch to Kurzweil, but there is a reason that
I have not done so already. It is really expensive and even with the
discount for having Open Book it is still expensive. But what I am
asking for now is for any comments or advice that any of you may have.
As frustrating as it can be I rather enjoy volunteering for Bookshare and I
would hate to give it up, but for right now I am at something of an impasse.
