[bksvol-discuss] Re: Windows 10 Nightmare

  • From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 13:56:17 -0500

Hmmm, I never shut down my computer that way.
On my Windows 7 laptop, I go to the Desktop with Windows key and m, then hit alt-f4. Then the list of options comes up with shutdown at the bottom.
I don't know whether that will work in Windows 10, but it might be worth a try.
Evan
Evan


-----Original Message----- From: Roger Loran Bailey (Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 1:43 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Windows 10 Nightmare

By the way, related to this matter, I can't find a shut down button for
my computer now. With Windows 7 I would press the Windows key and go to
the start menu. I would then arrow once to the right and there was the
shut down button or I could arrow twice to the right and then arrow down
four times for the restart button. Despite the fact that Windows 10 was
advertised as having an even better start menu than Windows 7 I can't
find a start menu at all. I press the windows key and all I find is a
search box and I have to type in the name of an app to find it. Arrowing
from that search box does nothing. So I have been using the power switch
to turn the computer on and off, but I understand that is bad for the
computer.

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“Who is more humble? The scientist who looks at the universe with an open mind and accepts whatever the universe has to teach us, or somebody who says everything in this book must be considered the literal truth and never mind the fallibility of all the human beings involved?”
―  Carl Sagan


On 12/21/2019 11:20 AM, Roger Loran Bailey (Redacted sender
rogerbailey81 for DMARC) wrote:

Yesterday I overcame my procrastination and I am now wishing that I hadn't. I remember that when I was using Windows XP I kept putting off upgrading because of trepidation about learning a new operating system. Then in 2014 my computer went kaput and I had to upgrade to Windows 7. It was not as bad as I expected and I learned my way around Windows 7 pretty quickly. But despite that experience I have been putting off upgrading to Windows 10 for the same reasons. Well, Windows 7 becomes obsolete on January 14, so yesterday I prepared myself for a hassle and downloaded Windows 10. I won't describe all the hassle that was involved, but it was a big hassle, indeed. It also turns out that it is a lot more different from Windows 7 than Windows 7 was different from Windows XP, so I have a lot of learning to do. But let me concentrate on the problems I am having related to Bookshare volunteering. When I was installing Windows 10 the dialog informed me that there were two apps on my computer that were not compatible with Windows 10 and I would have to uninstall them before I could proceed. One was JAWS 15. Fine, I don't use that anymore anyway. So I went ahead and uninstalled it. However, The other caused me a good bit of consternation. It was Open Book 9. That is my main number one tool for scanning books for Bookshare and also for reading my snail mail. But I couldn't otherwise continue, so I saved the book I am currently working on to my documents and went ahead and uninstalled it. I was on page 207 of a 357 page book. Because of that and another problem with JAWS that cropped up after the installation I was going to call Freedom Scientific technical support today and ask them about it, but I forgot that they are not available on weekends and I will have to wait until Monday. Not only do I now not have Open Book installed, but as far as I can tell I have also lost the book that I saved and every other document in my documents folder. I say as far as I can tell because I thought I had also lost all of my bookmarks, but somehow I did manage to restore those this morning. I have a bunch of documents that I really did not want to lose, but relating to Bookshare I appear to have lost three books that are either being proofread or are on the checkout list and the book I was currently working on. As for the books I have finished, well, if a proofreader has a problem with one then, at least as of right now, I don't have a copy to check for them. As for the one I was currently working on, I really hate to have done 207 pages worth of meticulous work on it only to lose it entirely or not to be able to proceed on it. Frankly, if Open Book is incompatible with Windows 10 I would have expected that by now it would have been mentioned on this list, so I was not expecting that at all. The obvious solution is to switch to Kurzweil, but there is a reason that I have not done so already. It is really expensive and even with the discount for having Open Book it is still expensive. But what I am asking for now is for any comments or advice that any of you may have. As frustrating as it can be I rather enjoy volunteering for Bookshare and I would hate to give it up, but for right now I am at something of an impasse.

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