Okay, I am going to have to contradict myself about some of the things I
said in my last email. In response to your suggestion I just tried
pressing the Windows key with the M key again. It took me straight to my
desk top. I don't know why it didn't work before. Maybe I hit a wrong
key. But it worked this time. I did not try the alt+f4 this time because
I was not ready to shut down, but I will try that the next time. As for
the start menu, your suggestion is exactly what I have been trying to do
and it is the way I was used to in Windows 7. I get that edit field and
when I arrow down the next thing that comes up is the word start. No
amount of arrowing down takes me to anything else. When I type something
into the edit field, though, I can arrow down through a list of results
just like in Windows 7, but that is not the start menu. And let me amend
what I just said. When I type something into that edit field I shouldn't
have said that I can arrow down through results just like in Windows 7.
The search results include results from the web. Windows 7 did not do
that. By the way, I don't know what this effects, but I said that on
Monday I was going to have to call Freedom Scientific technical support
for a reason other than Open Book not being compatible with Windows 10.
That reason is that when I boot up the computer I get an announcement
that an accessibility driver did not install properly and that I should
do a repair on the software. If I have it on a disk I know exactly how
to do that, but this time they did not send out the latest version of
JAWS on a DVD or a CD. It had to be downloaded. They said that was
because most computers being sold now do not even have a disk drive. So
I don't know how to do a repair. I don't know what that improperly
installed accessibility driver effects, but I am thinking that it just
might have something to do with the problems I am having.
___
Carl Sagan
“Who is more humble? The scientist who looks at the universe with an open mind
and accepts whatever the universe has to teach us, or somebody who says
everything in this book must be considered the literal truth and never mind the
fallibility of all the human beings involved?”
― Carl Sagan
On 12/21/2019 2:01 PM, Deborah Murray (Redacted sender blinkeeblink for
DMARC) wrote:
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The easiest way to shut down Windows 10 is to minimize all apps to the desktop
(windows+M) and then press alt+F4. Choose shut down or restart from the menu
and press enter.
To find your start menu items, press the windows key and press down arrow from
the edit box. This menu isn't quite as easy to navigate as it was in Windows 7.
When you hear that a folder is collapsed, instead of opening it with right
arrow, you'll need to press enter on it.
Good luck, I think you'll like it once you figure things out.
Deborah
but it's
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By the way, related to this matter, I can't find a shut down button for my
computer now. With Windows 7 I would press the Windows key and go to the start
menu. I would then arrow once to the right and there was the shut down button
or I could arrow twice to the right and then arrow down four times for the
restart button. Despite the fact that Windows 10 was advertised as having an
even better start menu than Windows 7 I can't find a start menu at all. I press
the windows key and all I find is a search box and I have to type in the name
of an app to find it. Arrowing from that search box does nothing. So I have
been using the power switch to turn the computer on and off, but I understand
that is bad for the computer.
___
Carl Sagan
“Who is more humble? The scientist who looks at the universe with an open mind
and accepts whatever the universe has to teach us, or somebody who says
everything in this book must be considered the literal truth and never mind the
fallibility of all the human beings involved?”
― Carl Sagan
On 12/21/2019 11:20 AM, Roger Loran Bailey (Redacted sender
rogerbailey81 for DMARC) wrote:
Yesterday I overcame my procrastination and I am now wishing that ITo unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
hadn't. I remember that when I was using Windows XP I kept putting off
upgrading because of trepidation about learning a new operating
system. Then in 2014 my computer went kaput and I had to upgrade to
Windows 7. It was not as bad as I expected and I learned my way around
Windows 7 pretty quickly. But despite that experience I have been
putting off upgrading to Windows 10 for the same reasons. Well,
Windows 7 becomes obsolete on January 14, so yesterday I prepared
myself for a hassle and downloaded Windows 10. I won't describe all
the hassle that was involved, but it was a big hassle, indeed. It also
turns out that it is a lot more different from Windows 7 than Windows
7 was different from Windows XP, so I have a lot of learning to do.
But let me concentrate on the problems I am having related to
Bookshare volunteering. When I was installing Windows 10 the dialog
informed me that there were two apps on my computer that were not
compatible with Windows 10 and I would have to uninstall them before I
could proceed. One was JAWS 15. Fine, I don't use that anymore anyway.
So I went ahead and uninstalled it. However, The other caused me a
good bit of consternation. It was Open Book 9. That is my main number
one tool for scanning books for Bookshare and also for reading my
snail mail. But I couldn't otherwise continue, so I saved the book I
am currently working on to my documents and went ahead and uninstalled
it. I was on page 207 of a 357 page book. Because of that and another
problem with JAWS that cropped up after the installation I was going
to call Freedom Scientific technical support today and ask them about
it, but I forgot that they are not available on weekends and I will
have to wait until Monday. Not only do I now not have Open Book
installed, but as far as I can tell I have also lost the book that I
saved and every other document in my documents folder. I say as far as
I can tell because I thought I had also lost all of my bookmarks, but
somehow I did manage to restore those this morning. I have a bunch of
documents that I really did not want to lose, but relating to
Bookshare I appear to have lost three books that are either being
proofread or are on the checkout list and the book I was currently
working on. As for the books I have finished, well, if a proofreader
has a problem with one then, at least as of right now, I don't have a
copy to check for them. As for the one I was currently working on, I
really hate to have done 207 pages worth of meticulous work on it only
to lose it entirely or not to be able to proceed on it. Frankly, if
Open Book is incompatible with Windows 10 I would have expected that
by now it would have been mentioned on this list, so I was not
expecting that at all. The obvious solution is to switch to Kurzweil,
but there is a reason that I have not done so already. It is really
expensive and even with the discount for having Open Book it is still
expensive. But what I am asking for now is for any comments or advice
that any of you may have. As frustrating as it can be I rather enjoy
volunteering for Bookshare and I would hate to give it up, but for
right now I am at something of an impasse.
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