Yes, the key sequence Windows+x then U or R works, but for many of us with a
keyboard that has only a left windows key it's a really awkward keystroke.
I've used a keyboard like this for so long that shutting down from the desktop
is quicker and easier. Different strokes...
Deborah
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine Petersen
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 10:41 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Windows 10 Nightmare
Hi Roger,
In Windows 10, you'll want to look for documents rather than my documents. Same
thing, different name. Also, in case you missed it as I likely replied in the
wrong place to shut down or restart, Windows X and then U then another U for
shutdown or R for restart.
Katherine
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey ;
(Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 11:15 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Windows 10 Nightmare
Well, maybe it didn't obliterate my documents, but if it didn't I haven't found
them yet. If I do find them I will report back here, but if I don't I would
advise that you back them up on some other medium before installing Windows 10.
___
Carl Sagan
“Who is more humble? The scientist who looks at the universe with an open mind
and accepts whatever the universe has to teach us, or somebody who says
everything in this book must be considered the literal truth and never mind the
fallibility of all the human beings involved?”
― Carl Sagan
On 12/21/2019 12:43 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
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documents though.
That can't be normal procedure.
I'm running my Win7 until I get a new computer, probably sometime next
year. This Dell laptop has been a trooper, but it'll be six years old
in April, so I guess I'll be in the market for a new one around then.
I've heard on good authority that Microsoft will keep supporting
Microsoft Security Essentials after January 12, so I'm not worried on
that front.
Evan
-----Original Message----- From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 11:40 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Windows 10 Nightmare
Hi Roger,
Well, when you talk to Vispero on Monday, ask them how much it will be
to upgrade OB. You may find that it is cheaper than switching to
Kurzie. Now, as a Kurzie user, I personally think that Kurzie is a
better program, but that's just me. What it looks like is that
you'll have to upgrade OB. It's a pain in both time and your pocket
book, but necessary. Sorry, there's no simple and cheap way to solve this
one.
Good luck.
Ann P.
Original message:
Yesterday I overcame my procrastination and I am now wishing that I
hadn't. I remember that when I was using Windows XP I kept putting
off upgrading because of trepidation about learning a new operating system.
Then in 2014 my computer went kaput and I had to upgrade to Windows 7.
It was not as bad as I expected and I learned my way around Windows 7
pretty quickly. But despite that experience I have been putting off
upgrading to Windows 10 for the same reasons. Well, Windows 7 becomes
obsolete on January 14, so yesterday I prepared myself for a hassle
and downloaded Windows 10. I won't describe all the hassle that was
involved, but it was a big hassle, indeed. It also turns out that it
is a lot more different from Windows 7 than Windows 7 was different
from Windows XP, so I have a lot of learning to do. But let me
concentrate on the problems I am having related to Bookshare
volunteering. When I was installing Windows 10 the dialog informed me
that there were two apps on my computer that were not compatible with
Windows 10 and I would have to uninstall them before I could proceed.
One was JAWS 15. Fine, I don't use that anymore anyway. So I went
ahead and uninstalled it. However, The other caused me a good bit of
consternation. It was Open Book 9.
That is my main number one tool for scanning books for Bookshare and
also for reading my snail mail. But I couldn't otherwise continue, so
I saved the book I am currently working on to my documents and went
ahead and uninstalled it. I was on page 207 of a 357 page book.
Because of that and another problem with JAWS that cropped up after
the installation I was going to call Freedom Scientific technical
support today and ask them about it, but I forgot that they are not
available on weekends and I will have to wait until Monday. Not only
do I now not have Open Book installed, but as far as I can tell I
have also lost the book that I saved and every other document in my
documents folder. I say as far as I can tell because I thought I had
also lost all of my bookmarks, but somehow I did manage to restore
those this morning. I have a bunch of documents that I really did not
want to lose, but relating to Bookshare I appear to have lost three
books that are either being proofread or are on the checkout list and
the book I was currently working on. As for the books I have
finished, well, if a proofreader has a problem with one then, at
least as of right now, I don't have a copy to check for them. As for
the one I was currently working on, I really hate to have done 207
pages worth of meticulous work on it only to lose it entirely or not
to be able to proceed on it. Frankly, if Open Book is incompatible
with Windows 10 I would have expected that by now it would have been
mentioned on this list, so I was not expecting that at all.
The obvious solution is to switch to Kurzweil, but there is a reason
that I have not done so already. It is really expensive and even with
the discount for having Open Book it is still expensive. But what I
am asking for now is for any comments or advice that any of you may have.
As frustrating as it can be I rather enjoy volunteering for Bookshare
and I would hate to give it up, but for right now I am at something
of an impasse.
--
___
Carl Sagan
“Who is more humble? The scientist who looks at the universe with an
open mind and accepts whatever the universe has to teach us, or
somebody who says everything in this book must be considered the
literal truth and never mind the fallibility of all the human beings
involved?”
― Carl Sagan
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