[ddots-l] Re: Hey guys you gotta hear this

  • From: "Gordon Kent" <dbmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:53:37 -0400

Hey:
I had sort of an experience like this the other night. I girl comes into the club where I'm playing, sort of young. She likes me, and starts talking to me on the break. Then she comes out with "Is that keyhboard some sort of karaoki machine or what? Of course I was appalled and let her know it. The end result was that she stayed a set and absolutely flipped over everything I did, saying stuff like, live music is coming back, I can't believe this. I've never heard a live performance like this before.
Gord
----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren H" <darren@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:06 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Hey guys you gotta hear this


Hi.

On the upside, if live playing becomes somewhat of a novelty, real music
lovers will pay a premium to see real talent.

Supply and demand.

Cheers
Darren
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Justin Kauflin
Sent: 25 August 2010 07:01
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Hey guys you gotta hear this

Ah, I just watched the whole thing.  I'm a little reassured that its at
least aimed at folks that want to practice with it.   That's totally cool.
Its just like using a ultra customizable Jamey Aebersold, +1 type of thing.
Like a lot of things coming out today, I think they're all great tools and
can be very effective if used in the right way. Its just a little scary to
think of all the ways it could go wrong.
    Phil, I think you got it when you said that people will want to see
real musicians as a special event.  That is both scary and sad for me.

Justin

On Aug 25, 2010, at 1:13 AM, Darren H wrote:

Hi.

I think it all comes back to what a recording artist does with the tool.

For example, you could use the real tracks to generate a full
production, which is probably a good idea for structuring your song.

Or, you could record your track as normal, then add a real tracks
bassline or sax riff just to give that extra something.

A lot will depend on the imagination of the user.

Better producers and musicians will find the most inventive ways of
putting it to use.

Cheers
Darren

www.karmistry.com
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Justin Kauflin
Sent: 25 August 2010 06:03
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Hey guys you gotta hear this

This is all very fascinating, and quite disturbing at the same time.
I think its great that technology is bringing this sort of stuff
along, but can't help but think that music is about interaction.  I
think a big part of the equation gets thrown out when its all
prerecorded, even by great musicians.  I feel like performing can be
so much rewarding when you are actually interacting with others.  But,
hey, whatever works for ya...
  With that said, I think these sort of things  do  look like  great
shedding tools.

Justin
On Aug 23, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Jack Conti wrote:

and not much better than playing against a feel like that.  better
than a
lot of other backing tracks out there. At 01:22 PM 8/23/2010, you wrote:
At 12:55 PM 8/23/2010, you wrote:
Something about this just disturbs me.

If we're talking about Band-in-a-Box with realtracks and realdrums,
those
are cunningly strung together loops of professional musicians.

I can only speak from experience playing jazz against Band-in-a-Box
as a
practice tool. Personally, it's nice knowing that the realdrums jazz
styles were recorded by one of the best jazz drummers in the world, Terry
Clarke.
If you want to develop good swing feel, listen to Terry.  It's
certainly better than the robotic rigid sort of swing you would
develop with older versions of the program, if you wern't careful.

Chris

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