[ddots-l] Re: Omar straight from the factory
- From: Blake Hardin <blakehardin5487@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 23:56:10 -0700
Yes phil, very much aggree with you on that one.
On 4/5/10, Omar Binno <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> hmm, never looked at it that way. smile. thanks phil.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Muir
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:31 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omar straight from the factory
>
>
> Omar wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. You rated the vsts above the motif, but doesn't
> the fact that you had to put plugins and fx on the vsts sort of contradict
> the title of this post "Straight from the factory?" The initial argument was
> that coming straight out the box, hardware sounds better than software. Just
> a thought.
>
> Phil replied: no. If you listened to all of your samples from your motif
> with out any processing on them at all then, they would sound terrible.
>
> Regards, Phil Muir
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> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Omar Binno
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 3:28 PM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omar straight from the factory
>
>
> Steve,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. You rated the vsts above the motif, but doesn't
> the fact that you had to put plugins and fx on the vsts sort of contradict
> the title of this post "Straight from the factory?" The initial argument was
> that coming straight out the box, hardware sounds better than software. Just
> a thought.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Wicketts
> To: ddtots
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:14 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omar straight from the factory
>
>
> Hi Omar,
>
> Well, I said I'd report back after using VST's on my live Gig.
>
> It was a lively gig, I have a 2500 watt sound system, and it was working
> hard.
>
> Here's how the different softsynths rated against my Yamaha Motif.
>
> 1: Bass Guitar.
> I used Dimension Pro's Full Fingered bass guitar, I put it through a few
> effect pluggins.
> This made the bass guitar very punchy and quite warm sounding.
> It just needed a little more bass Eq, to make the bass bins work for
> there money. I know what EQ pluggin to use to make the necessary changes so,
> I give VST bass guitar 7 out of 10,
> The Motif Bass guitar I used to use 6 out of 10.
>
> 2: Drums.
> I used Superior Drummer, I put it through a few effect pluggins. The
> snare had Sonitus Compressor Vintage DBX plus Sonitus Gate.
> I put a few processors on some of the other drums and the whole Kit
> sounded amazing!
> I give VST Drums 8 out of 10,
> Motif Drums that I used to use 7 out of 10.
>
> 3: Strat guitar.
> I used Sonivoxmi Strat VST, plus I also used a Strat sample from the DSF
> Guitar and bass pack.
> I simply combined the two by copying the info from one track to the
> other. Sonivoxmi Strat for the realism of the sound and the DSF strat to
> give the guitar much more attack and a fuller body.
> Once again sending both samples through several effects, one of them
> being a Modulator to give the guitar samples a bit of fluidity, I ended up
> with a fairly convincing Strat guitar.
> I give the VST Strat Guitar 8 out of 10.
> The Motif I used to use 4 out of 10.
>
> 4: Horns.
> I used VST Dimension Pro Tenor Sax, Dimension Pro Auto Sax, Dimension
> Pro trumpet Shake and a Trombone from the Proteus 2000 pack.
> The trumpet shake from Dimension is quite affective but it's so so weak
> sounding, I had to give this some bight and body by having the Trumbone from
> the Proteus play the same high notes as the Trumpet Shake.
> The Tenor sax is playing in the correct octave as so is the Auto sax.
> All Horns sent through many effect pluggins, the whole Horn section does
> sound quite convincing.
> I give my VST Horns 7 out of 10.
> Motif Horns I used to use 5 out of 10.
>
> When I first had Sonar, I really was beginning to believe I'd made a
> mistake. I now realise that it was the best move I made, and I'm still only
> touching the surface with the possibilities.
>
> Interesting gigs coming up as I'm Playing Piano and helping with musical
> arrangements for a Rock 'N' Roll tribute Show.
> I've insisted that I use my backing tracks to start the Show and The
> band Join me just before the Buddy Holly tribute enters the stage.
> Although I've finally got the softsynths to take on the Motif, I don't
> think I have the quality of softsynths to stand up against a real live band.
>
> If any of you from the UK live near Bognor Regis, the Impressions of the
> 50's Show is in your town for two nights.
> Appearing at the local Theatre on Sunday April 11th , for a Sunday
> Matinee Show.
>
> Steve W
>
> From: Omar Binno
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:23 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omar straight from the factory
>
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I haven't used vsts in live settings, but I know, for recording
> purposes, I'm not a believer in most of the orchestral stuff you get with
> them.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Wicketts
> To: ddtots
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:15 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Omar straight from the factory
>
>
> Hi Omar,
>
> Well I'm about to find out whether VST's can cut it live.
> Tonight is my first gig where I'm just using VST sounds.
> I'll soon find out whether they have the same impact as the Motif,
> as all my previous tracks were recorded using the Motif.
>
> These VST's have been put through so many processors, I wouldn't be
> surprised if they were suffering with a little travel sickness?
>
> Will let you know how I got on.
> Steve W
>
>
>
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