[duxuser] Re: Duxbury and JAWS
- From: "Paul Hunt" <prhunt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:48:33 -0600
Hello everyone. I believe we have focus issues because Duxbury isn't using a
standard edit window. I would like confirmation of this and a reason for not
using standard edit windows. I have used various types of word processors
and other programs with text edit boxes. I have also written my own programs
using the standard text edit boxes and have never had a problem with focus.
-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 7:36 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Duxbury and JAWS
Hi all, Ben is correct about the focus issue and especially screen
reader users. It might interest you to know however that people who use
the keyboard exclusively other than screen reader users have also found
focus issues.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Blagg" <bblagg@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Duxbury and JAWS
Most experienced JFW users, especially with 4.0 and beyond, are aware
that
Jaws doesn't always stay focused and you have to refocus, sometimes with
an
alt tab. It seems to be a problem with the screen reader, but really it
isn't a big thing as long as you are aware of the focus issue. It
almost
becomes second nature to make sure your focus is where you want it to
be.
Thanks George for the further explanation. And, by the way, happy new
year.
Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bell" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 10:21 AM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Duxbury and JAWS
> Hi Ben,
>
> Thanks for passing on that tip. It appears to be a continual problem,
> and is generally caused by what is known as the "off screen model" of
> the screen reader not being refreshed automatically. I'm sure many of
> you will have seen this problem reported in programs like Word for
> Windows, where it often maifests itself by saying "blank line" where
in
> fact text is there.
>
> I'm hoping some of these problems will be resolved very soon after the
> screen reader companies finally agree on a common standard of video
> interfacing.
>
> Just for the record, we had a case recently where neither screen
reader
> nor software product was to blame for similar missreading problems.
It
> turned out to be an extremely obscure problem to do with Microsoft's
> Active Accessibility. (MSA) Took some finding, but just goes to show
> how difficult some problems are to resolve.
>
> George Bell
> Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Blagg [mailto:bblagg@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 04 January 2003 15:34
> > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Duxbury and JAWS
> >
> >
> > I don't know if this will help, I'm using the latest version
> > of Duxbury and JFW 4.5. Occasionally when Jaws does not
> > speak text that I know is there, I do a screen refresh with
> > insert plus escape and that seems to bring the text back.
> > Insert plus escape doesn't work on earlier versions of Jaws
> > but on the 4 series it does.
> >
> > Ben
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Londa Hauser" <lhauser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:52 AM
> > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Duxbury and JAWS
> >
> >
> > > Hi Bruce,
> > >
> > > I'm not Ann, but I've also had the same problem. There
> > seems to be no
> > > rhyme or reason who when it happens. I've had it happen on
Windows
> > > 95, 98 and 2000. I always set my video cards to 256 colors and my
> > > resolution to 800 by 600. Usually, if I press the up
> > arrow, I can get
> > > the text to read, but this is annoying and makes for a lot
> > more work.
> > > I hope this helps a little.
> > >
> > > Londa Hauser, Access Technology Specialist
> > > Tri-County Association for the Blind
> > > (717) 238-2531
> > > lhauser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > http://www.tricountyblind.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bruce Maguire [SMTP:bruceonline@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 10:31 AM
> > > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Duxbury and JAWS
> > >
> > > Hi Ann
> > >
> > > Does this happen in print files, braille files, or both? Does it
> > > happen with all versions of Duxbury. I'll try and reproduce the
> > > problem on my system, but it would be good if you can give me some
> > > details about which version of Windows you are using and what
video
> > > card/resolution you have.
> > >
> > > By the way, I'm a braille producer in Australia, and I'm
> > also on the
> > > Jaws beta testing list so I should be able to at least raise the
> > > issues. I haven't had much free time during the past year as I was
> > > finishing a university course, but now that that's
> > (hopefully) over, I
> > > should be able to participate more actively in some of these
> > > discussions.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Bruce
> > > On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:22:00 -0600, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Bruce
> > > >Here is my biggest problem with jaws 4 series and duxbury. I'm a
> > > >braille
> > > transcriber so I read everything line by line. I arrow down to
the
> > > next line and jaws announces blank. It will happen
> > intermittently for
> > > 1 or several lines. In reality, there is text there, but jaws
does
> > > not speak it. I tried refreshing my screen, changing the view in
> > > duxbury to full page, all to no avail.
> > > >
> > > >Ann Foxworth, Computer Braille Specialist
> > > >Texas Commission for the Blind
> > > >4800 N. Lamar BLVD Suite # 130
> > > >Austin, TX 78756
> > > >PH: (512) 377-0654
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Bruce Maguire [mailto:bruceonline@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:17 AM
> > > >To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: [duxuser] Re: Duxbury and JAWS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi Sylvia
> > > >
> > > >There have been a number of problems with Jaws and Duxbury
> > going back
> > > >years. For example, Jaws can't find blank lines in print files
> > > >produced by using the Control-M (new paragraph) command,
similarly
> > > >with blank lines in braille files produced by control-K.
> > Perhaps we
> > > >need to raise the issues again with both Duxbury and Freedom
> > > >Scientific, as I know that there are a growing number of
> > people who
> > > >are using, or who want to use, Jaws with Duxbury. I'd be happy to
> > > >subit a list of compatibility issues to both companies if you are
> > > >able to give me some specfics about any problems you have
> > with Jaws
> > > >4.5 and Duxbury.
> > > >
> > > >Cheers
> > > >Bruce
> > > >On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 06:39:32 -0800, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>I have noticed that JAWS 4.5 also doesn't work well with even
> > > >>Duxbury
> > > 10.3
> > > >>or
> > > >>Microsoft Word. I have reverted back to JAWS 3.5, which
> > works better
> > > >>for
> > > me
> > > >>than 3.7 or any of the 4 series with both Duxbury and Microsoft
> > > >>Word.
> > > JAWS
> > > >>4.5 does work best for me on web pages. But, most of what
> > I am doing
> > > >>is
> > > with
> > > >>Microsoft Word and Duxbury.
> > > >>
> > > >>Sylvie Kashdan
> > > >>Instructor/Curriculum Coordinator
> > > >>KAIZEN PROGRAM for New English Learners with Visual Limitations
> > > >>810-A Hiawatha Place South Seattle, WA 98144
> > > >>phone: (206) 784-5619
> > > >>email: kaizen_esl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>From: "Foxworth, Ann" <Ann.Foxworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 5:46 AM
> > > >>Subject: [duxuser] Re: Duxbury and JAWS
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Teresa: What version of JAWS are you using? I have noticed that
> > > >>ever
> > > since
> > > >>JAWS put out the 4 series, it has not worked well in
> > Duxbury. I've
> > > >>experienced the very problem you have seen. I actually had to
> > > >>revert
> > > back
> > > >>to 3.7.
> > > >>
> > > >>Ann Foxworth, Computer Braille Specialist
> > > >>Texas Commission for the Blind
> > > >>4800 N. Lamar BLVD Suite # 130
> > > >>Austin, TX 78756
> > > >>PH: (512) 377-0654
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: Theresa Hodge [mailto:theresa.hodge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >>Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:43 AM
> > > >>To: Duxbury User Group
> > > >>Subject: [duxuser] Duxbury and JAWS
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Hi Everyone
> > > >>
> > > >>I'm using Duxbury 10.2E and JAWS 4.02. Yesterday I noticed that
> > > >>when I
> > > was
> > > >>editing a file in Duxbury and using Control and the right
> > arrow key
> > > >>to
> > > move
> > > >>to the next word, JAWS would often announce the word before. It
> > > >>would
> > > also
> > > >>do the same kind of thing if I moved one character at a time,
> > > >>therefore making it very hard to track where I was in a
> > > >>word/sentence. Has anyone else come across this problem, and is
> > > >>there a way of fixing it?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Theresa Hodge
> > > >>Equal Access Consultancy
> > > >>PO Box 1
> > > >>St Leonards-on-Sea
> > > >>East Sussex TN37 6YQ
> > > >>Tel/Fax: 01424 421411
> > > >>E-mail: theresa.hodge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Theresa Hodge
> > > >>theresa.hodge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>
> > > >>
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