Well at least I know it is not a probloem confined to me and my friend
now. To be clear the login is Voiceover accessible, sort of, once you
start Voiceover.
The puzzle is why all of a sudden, people are now having silent login
screens appearing during El Kapitan OS maintenance updates even if
they set their Macs to start without the need for a login.
This can be very confusing as the first time it happened I left my Mac
for hours thinking it was simply taking an age to install a mega update,
only to find it had been sitting on a silent login screen which was
preventing the update from completing.
Once the update has finished installing Voiceover starts normally
without the need for a login screen as normal.
The annoyance is during the maintenance update process There is nothing
audible at all until you happen to try turning on Voiceover.
Incidentally neither me or my friend have ever used File Vault.
David Griffith
On 05/07/2016 15:49, Scott Granados wrote:
I haven’t found any voiceover inaccessible log in screens during the install or
upgrade process. VO always starts and provides feedback. I’m wondering if this
could be some sort of file vault issue on older hardware? Mine is a 2015 Mac
that has sound files included in the boot loader. Are there any audible beeps
when you hit these screens?
On Jul 5, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Lena Contreras <contreras_lena@xxxxxx> wrote:
my situation is the same. Do you know if it is happening to older macs? My neck
is a 2010 MacBook Pro.
Lena
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On Jul 5, 2016, at 12:41 AM, David Griffith <daj.griffith@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:************
Yest it is odd.
A couple of months ago afriend rang me to complain that he was suddenly having
this issue on his Mac Air. At the time I did not have the issue either. I
thought it was something he was not understanding as I was not then getting
this problem. A few weeks later then hey presto I found that the same thing
started all of a sudden happening to me also after one of the updates.
My Mac is set to start without a need for log on as was his Air. Yet still the
Mac is pausing without speech during updates to demand a log on.
David Griffith
On 04/07/2016 21:49, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:************
I don't have the problem either.
On 4 Jul 2016, at 21:10, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:************
Actually I don't even have that issue and I'm using el capitan and have ben
since its release. Strange.
On Jul 4, 2016, at 12:50 PM, David Griffith <daj.griffith@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:************
I have not had the exact same problem. Since installing El Kapitan though I
have found that maintenance OS updates
have oddly started introducing an unspoken and unexpected log on screen during
the middle of an update process.
This did not arise when I had previous OS versions. Whilst this logon screen is
initially clunky with a button masquerading as a group i did find that
Voiceover would come on with command F5 in the normal way.
Why Apple have started introducing log on screen during update which do not
have VO speaking, even if it is the system default is a bit of a mystery for me.
David Griffith
David Griffith On 04/07/2016 16:39, Crayto Benner wrote:
hmmmmmm, strange. I have never seen that problem before.************
On Jul 4, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Lena Contreras <contreras_lena@xxxxxx> wrote:************
I had somebody come to look at the computer yesterday to make sure I knew what
was going on. Apparently it was updating and needed my Apple ID and password.
However, voiceover was not speaking that. I thought, during updating, voiceover
would still speak to me. At least I think that is what happened before. Has
anybody had this problem? I did push the command to get VoiceOver to speak but
nothing happened. Once updating was over it came up talking.
Lena
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On Jul 3, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:************
Try booting into the recovery system with command r and hold it down while
powering your mac. And hold it for 30 seconds. Do a disk repair and all of that
in disk utility. If that does not work I'm afraid your mac might be shot. It's
6 years old after all.
On Jul 3, 2016, at 10:33 AM, david hilbert poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>************
wrote:
command F5 or Function key command F5 should get VoiceOver started if I
remember correctly
On Jul 3, 2016, at 9:42 AM, Lena Contreras <contreras_lena@xxxxxx> wrote:
My 2010 MacBook Pro is not booting up. When I turn it on I hear the hard drive
spinning but it does not get to the login screen. I sort of remember the
procedures for this type of problem. Can somebody go through the steps I need
to get it up and running again? I also have an external drive that I have been
backing up to. Also do I need to turn voiceover on or will it come on by
itself? I thought the command was control r or something. I am running the
latest software. This all started because iTunes was acting funny and I decided
to shut the system down and restart.
Lena
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