Interesting about there being no power button on a MacBook Air, I’ve only
worked with one model of air, that being a 2015 model which had both an Eject
key and a power button.
Regardless of that the machine was a joy to use and I’m thinking about
purchasing another MacBook Air, probably won’t buy a M1 machine, not really
sure what way I’ll go yet.
It’s the same with the Mac mini, the Mac mini M1 machine is the same price over
here as the Intel Mac mini was a few weeks ago, both machines are still being
sold alongside each other but the Intel Mac mini is now $200 cheaper than it
was whereas the Mac mini M1 is the same price price as the Intel Mac mini was a
few weeks ago so which to buy?
I’ve been planning on upgrading 1 Mac mini machine for quite some time now and
would have clinched the deal some weeks ago had the best-laid plans been dealt
a blow beyond my control as always happens <smile>, so when it comes to Mac
mini machines? Well in the next month or so I’ll have plenty to think about and
perhaps its just as well I’ve had to wait a little longer.
On 25 Nov 2020, at 4:37 am, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
aGreed. This move is fine for me. I have an eject key on my keyboard, Ok, I
have no power button on my air which is weird, but it works.
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On 24 Nov 2020, at 9:17, Dane Trethowan wrote:
To be honest it doesn’t matter what type of issue it is, fact is that a
shutdown or restart for that matter from a keyboard shortcut can’t be
performed from the keyboard of the computer itself, a feature I greatly miss
but no good going on about it as I don’t see the people at Apple too worried
about fixing the issue even if they wanted to, I mean how are you going to
emulate a non existent eject key on a keyboard?
On 25 Nov 2020, at 4:13 am, <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxx>>
<gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
That is not a mac book issue it is the operating software it left I think in
catoliena, but it could be one before that.
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Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: New mac user
One thing I don’t like about the MacBook Pro machines - from 2015 on - is
that there is no way to shutdown the computer from the keyboard itself, no
keyboard shortcut combination in other words.
From my iMac for example I can hold down ctrl-option-command and eject to
shutdown the computer. I suppose this could also be done on the MacBook if
one chose to pair a Magic keyboard with the machine.
On 24 Nov 2020, at 11:24 pm, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi, I can add to this. They are accessible but I don’t like them and many
sited and blind alike don’t. That being said though it is accessible. You
can either touch approximately where the control is you want or you can
swipe back and forth and then double tap.
What I do is I use a separate Magic Keyboard which has all
the physical keys. As many may or may not know the MacBook I think 2017
and on have horrible keyboards. They feel like you’re typing on mushy
peas. This has been addressed I’m told with recent models, I'm’ excited to
try the newer keyboard which is basically a magic keyboard on the brand new
M1 MacBook Pro. I have a 2017 MacBook Pro and the keyboard is the worst
I’ve ever used, apple should be ashamed. My favorite today is my 2016
MacBook Pro 15 inch model but I’m hopeful the new model compares. I would
not be concerned about using the Touch Bar if you have to it’s totally
doable just in my opinion not the most enjoyable user experience but others
may disagree.
Thanks
On Nov 24, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Shawn Krasniuk (Redacted sender "bbsshawn"
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<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Manoj. Welcome to the Mac. Essencially what a touch bar MacBook Pro is
is instead of having function keys, they're replaced by an iphone/ipad
like touch bar. I don't have one but apparently they are accessible for
the blind.
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
So what is a touch bar mac and how accessible is it for the blind?
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:35 PM John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
If it’s a Touch Bar Mac, you will need to hold down the command key
and press the power button 3 times. If it doesn’t have a Touch Bar or
you get an external keyboard, then Command-F5 will work.
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi John,
Thank you so much for your help. Just a curious question, you said
depending on the laptop. So I am getting a macbook pro with 8 GB Ram
and 512 GB storage. So will I be able to activate voiceover using
command f5 or will need to hold down the command key and press the
power button at the top right corner 3 times quickly as you suggested?
Manoj
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:00 PM John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Manoj,
Welcome to the list. I hope you find it helpful for you.
You will need to power on the laptop by pressing the power button
the first time. Then, you should here a recorded voice that gives you
the option to turn on VoiceOver for the setup process. Depending on
what kind of Laptop you have, you will either press command-Function
key 5 or you will hold the command key down and press the SIRI button
at the top right corner of the keyboard, which is also the power
button, three quick times to activate SIRI. You will have speech
throughout the entire setup process.
and Be sure to navigate and listen to all screens. Holding down
control and option keys with the right or left arrow will enable you
to navigate the screens, and pressing control-option-spacebar will
active the, Next, or, Continue, buttons on any screen.
Take Care
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