[mac4theblind] Re: external storage devices

  • From: Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 19:15:17 +0100

eSATA's already a usable interface, sadly not by most macs so thunderbolt is 
it's mac replacement and as good if not better than eSATA.

Current drives are M4 512GB from crucial but they are superceded by the M5 960 
drives giving near 1tb storage. just a little more expensive than my previous 
investment but in terms of tech support, reliability, etc I wouldn't go 
anywhere else.

depending on your storage needs, what you're doing with that data, it's always 
best going for the highest grade storage you can afford. companies like Buffalo 
technologies who I recommend, do tailored storage solutions for professionals, 
business / enterprise / pro-audio/video, etc

I remember my days in Pro Audio and data storage, large SCSI caddies on top of 
each other with heavy SCSI cables, 12 drives in all, in RAID config, to a G3 
minitower running the old protools systems, running a full loom out for a 
mixing board, recording to the SCSI drives, mastering to a CD burner 
afterwards. ooh the noise. I miss those days.

now, everything's on micro-chip. quiet as heck but hey this is the modern era.

lew

On 8 Oct 2013, at 19:07, Benjamin Blatter <benjaminblatter@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Lew!
> 
> I might reconsider for my next batch of discs I'll use for backup. Which do 
> you use and what's the largest data capacity? If there would be 1 or 2 TB. 
> But I guess I have some time. still have to ditch windows XP, because there's 
> no trim support yet LOL
> I was thinking about waiting till SataE is coming.
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
> Am 08.10.2013 18:50, schrieb Edward Redfern:
>> Hi Ben,
>> 
>> firstly, any external HDD can have it's HDD extracted ready to cross over to 
>> another system, after all, the HDD in question these days is primarily SATA 
>> / SATA-II. any external drive enclosure can be stripped down to remove the 
>> volume, as long as you have a set of screw drivers, you're alright.
>> 
>> let's not forget that all these media storage manufacturers all build 
>> enclosures, either of their own or that of other suppliers, install their 
>> controllers, interfaces and drives. so at the end of the day, doesn't matter 
>> what external drive you buy, understand that the drive can be replaced.
>> 
>> as regards the use of SSD. I have worked with workstations where SSD's are 
>> running 24/7 without failure for  3 years and I can say this. today's data 
>> storage by SSD and running support, far outstrips the use of SATA 7200rpm 
>> drives.
>> 
>> Unless you fork out for an external controller with uSCSI interfaces and 
>> 15000rpm  drives for storage reliability and speed of access, which by the 
>> way is more expensive, SSD in terms of power efficiency, data stability, etc 
>> is much better.
>> 
>> my own workstations here run SSD's 24/7 and I have monitoring tools to 
>> perform periodic degradation testing. One drive failed but it was a rogue 
>> unit and thankfully Crucial replaced it, so my workstation server was back 
>> on line and performing like a real champion.
>> 
>> As a workstation server, I have bootcamp running as well and even windows 7 
>> and windows server blaze on this drive. love it to bits.
>> 
>> at the end of the day, depending on requirements of storage, options of 
>> networking either by ethernet or wireless ethernet, drive spanning / other 
>> interface support, drive speed and longevity, etc there are a number of 
>> options. If you're energy conscious, SSD's are completely energy efficient, 
>> compared to rotational media, tape drives, etc.
>> 
>> scott and I can tell you stories about SCSI drives from the 90's and what 
>> they were really like lol.
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> On 8 Oct 2013, at 17:36, Benjamin Blatter <benjaminblatter@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Andy
>>> Lately I made a nasty experience with an external USB drive. Fortunatelly 
>>> luck was with me this time. But from now on I don't buy any external drives 
>>> anymore. Because if the controller of the drive suddenly dies it's a pain 
>>> to get the drive out and recover your data.
>>> Now I buy desktop drives like a western digital green and put the drive 
>>> into an external case like the icy box IB-366STU3+B. Yes, it's a little bit 
>>> more expensive but recovery might be easier this way.
>>> 
>>> SSD probably will be our future. But I'm not sure about using SSD for large 
>>> backups. At least I wouldn't solely depend on them. No moving parts doesn't 
>>> automatically mean a SSD cannot die. And from what I heart if they die they 
>>> do it very quick and it's hard to recover your data.
>>> This medium is awesome but still young. There are many changes happening 
>>> with the replacement of SATA III. No one really knows from experience how 
>>> many years the data of a backup SSD will remain. And right now they still 
>>> are rather expensive.
>>> For about 3 or 4 very expensive SSD until you reach 3 TB you can get easily 
>>> an external case and two not so expensive mechanical drives with 3 or even 
>>> 4 TB. Use one for your daily usage and the other for backup.
>>> 
>>> Ben
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 08.10.2013 15:28, schrieb Mackenzie Andrew (EAST CHESHIRE NHS TRUST - 
>>> RJN):
>>>> Hi david, can you give me further info.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert 
>>>> Poehlman
>>>> Sent: 08 October 2013 12:30
>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: external storage devices
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> H andy,
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> I guess this depends on how much music you have and what the size of the 
>>>> hd in the mbp is.  almost all external usb hds are good.  you can't go 
>>>> wrong with western digital as a start.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:08 AM, Mackenzie Andrew (EAST CHESHIRE NHS TRUST - 
>>>> RJN) <andrew.mackenzie4@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>             Hi all, I am thinking of transferring my music cooection onto 
>>>> my macbook pro.  To safe memory would it be better for me to save this 
>>>> collection on anexternalstorage device?  If so can anyone tell me which 
>>>> would be more compatible with the macbook?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert 
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