Just to give some numbers: > I'd be interested to see what the amount of coal burned to produce that > recharge is?!? This may be roughly the bicycle you're talking about: http://www.myebike.com/bikes/lite2.html The battery carries 24 volt, 6.5 ah or 0.156 kWh, assuming you can completely drain it. The charger efficiency is not great, around 30%, see: www.efficientproducts.org/reports/bchargers/NRDC-Ecos_Battery_Charger_Ef ficiency.pdf This would translate roughly into 0.5 Kg CO2 to charge the battery and would take you on a maximum 45 Km trip. The emissions per Km traveled would be 11 gram Co2 per Km traveled in the best case. This link give some Co2/KWh numbers: http://www.uic.com.au/ComparativeCO2.htm Some more searching on the web: A person in comparison, exhales carbon dioxide (the rate is approximately 1 kg per day, and it depends strongly on the person's activity level) The link is: http://cdiac.ornl.gov/pns/faq.html (I couldn't find the emissions as a function of effort) And then the typical emissions of a car: http://www.carpages.co.uk/co2/ The Toyota Prius stands at 104 g/Km while the average American SUV sits in the 225-250 g/Km range. The emissions to build, ship, sell and maintain the bicycle or car should also be included in the calculation for the typical lifetime of the vehicle. This means that you can have 20+ Chinese guys for every guy in an SUV. Cris ============================================================ This is the Python Mailinglist //www.freelists.org/list/python Listmaster: Jürgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx To unsubscribe send an empty mail to python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. ============================================================