[python] Re: electric python

  • From: Ronald Hongsermeier <rwhongser@xxxxxx>
  • To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:44:22 +0100

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> >  > ........ 4 hour recharge time
> >>  ........ and average cost of recharge 0.53 US dollar.
> >
> >I'd be interested to see what the amount of coal burned to produce 
> >that recharge is?!?
> >
> ron
> 
> Yeah, that's always the underlying problem -- at the moment -- for 
> electric vehicles: clean, quiet and apparently very eco, but with a 
> really nasty, un-eco power-plant upstream, and often an even nastier 
> fossil-carbon-getting operation upstream of that.
> 
> But there are genuinely much cleaner and ecologically more benign 
> ways to feed the grid, albeit at a much lower level than current huge 
> demands, about which we aren't being serious enough yet.
> 
> And as the Triple Global Crisis (Peak Everything, Climate Shift and 
> the Sixth Extinction) becomes no longer ignorable/deniable, over the 
> next few years, we're just going to have to address questions like 
> that, and do something substantive about them. Or suffer the mother 
> of all crashes. (I haven't ridden in snow for years now, either: no 
> snow to ride in)
> 

I keep hearing more and more scientific voices, especially from astronomers, 
saying that the global warming hysteria is just plain bad science. The chief 
argument is that over the last c. 30 yrs. the energy-emission from our 
neighboring star has warmed mercury, mars and venus way more than our terra. 
So, though we are a part of the problem, it's likely a smaller part than the 
inventor of the internet, ecology, peak tobacco and the new-american-way thinks.


> I suspect -- cautious verb -- that all kinds of pedalled and 
> pedal-assisted light vehicles will be making a come-back, with 
> alleweder forms enjoying a real renaissance, reprising the early 
> years of the twentieth century.
> 
I hope you're right about this. Though I dread 4 a.m. drives to the airport 
20km away with blowing snow, uncleared roads, etc. An automobile is really a 
hassle and a huge cost factor, but there are lots of days here, where the 
distance + conditions + time equation just doesn't allow any other choice... 
maybe it's time to think about a move.

> Didn't know about the two kinds of elec/pedal bikes, Dirk. Could be 
> that we only have the one type here in Britain. I've noticed a few 
> people using them, and they seem to fall quickly into the habit of 
> just not pedalling at all, letting the battery do it all. A drawback 
> of electrobikes, I think. It would be better if they were mostly the 
> power-only-when-you-pedal kind, as standard. That should make a 
> really energy-efficient method of transport.  Cof, RhG
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