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Bob,
Thanks - You clarified and added information.
Amy
-- It if be now, 'tis not to come,
If it be not to come, it will be now,
If it be now now, Yet it will come.
The readiness is all.
Wm. Shakespeare
-------------- Original message from "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: --------------
Working my way through emails Amy so this message may be redundant.
PQ books are publisher quality books: books
supplied by the publisher and put into the collection without ever touching a
scanner, scannor, (the person who scans), or validator.
Hope this helps.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:16
AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare
& PQ submission
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Cindy,
I must have missed something along the way but
what are PQ books. I know I should know but I don'.
Sorry.
Amy
-- It if be now, 'tis not to come,
If it be not to come, it will be now, If it be now now, Yet it
will come. The readiness is all. Wm. Shakespeare
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Original message from Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>:
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Children's books, mostly, and possibly juvenile
lit. Charts and diagrams in other books I would assume can be retained
in PQ books, probably in their original format, whereas we've had to
"translate" them into other formats, such > as words and
paragraphs. > > Cindy > > --- On Fri,
8/8/08, Gary Petraccaro wrote: > >
> From: Gary Petraccaro > >
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission >
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Date: Friday,
August 8, 2008, 10:34 PM > > What kind of books are these
where the descriptions should > > be sought. I ask >
> because many books I do have pictures and sometimes, I >
> leave them out. > > Thanks. > > > >
----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ann McCay"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, August 08,
2008 4:54 PM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare
& PQ submission > > > > > > > The
probem I have with this is that there are times > > that
publishers don't > > > give us words for pictures, and we
don't have the > > luxury of using the > > >
volunteer's work to get that information if > > we've lost
that because we are > > > now supposed to get this from
the publisher. That is > > true very recently > >
> with > > > a publisher that I read from bookshare
which was the > > publisher's copy. It > > > is
> > > fine as we work toward a publisher copy that will
give > > us what we want, > > > but >
> > to say that this is so wonderful and we should only >
> keep to publishers > > > right > > >
now is way too soon, and to the point that I may not > >
keep downloading only > > > publisher copies. The things
that I didn't know > > after reading the > > >
publisher > > > copy are things that I still don't know.
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of Laura Ann > > > Sent: Friday, August 08,
2008 1:33 PM > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ
> > submission > > > > > > I agree
Monica > > > > > > Thank you for posting
this. > > > I look forward to the PQ books and the access
it will > > give us to clean > > > scans
> > > of books. > > > I appreciate
publishers working with bookshare. > > > > >
> I also appreciate the volunteers and the variety of > >
books we can download. > > > I don't want to see books
that are historical > > removed because new ones on >
> > the topic might take there place. > > > Leave
all the different types of books and let us > > decide what
to download. > > > > > > And I dont' have a
problem with PQ books replacing > > existing books scanned
> > > by > > > us as volunteers. >
> > I want the best quality book available. > > >
We dont have the luxury of just going to a library or > >
store and reading > > > the > > > copy off
the shelf as you mentioned. > > > > > > I
appreciate everyone's hard work to see the > > collection
grows. > > > Laura Ann > > > > >
> At 03:08 PM 8/8/2008, you wrote: > > >>Hi, Cindy.
No one likes to have their time wasted > > or see what they
> > >>worked on replaced. Having said that, a large
> > number of books currently > > >>in the
collection are nowhere near perfect. Keeping > > them for
the sake > > >>of preserving someone's time isn't fair
to > > the members of Bookshare > > >>both
because it would create confusion when someone > > is
searching for > > >>books and because we don't enjoy
reading messed > > up books unless we have > >
>>no other choice. Even books rated excellent > >
aren't usually letter > > >>perfect, and a significant
number have some serious > > issues. > > >>
> > >>Cindy, you have the ability to grab a book from
> > your library or > > >>bookstore and read
it whenever you want to. You > > never have to worry
> > >>about scannos, and you don't have the >
> distraction of hearing non-words > > >>spoken in
almost every paragraph. Yet you are the > > loudest voice
asking > > >>for Bookshare to keep scanned books when
a > > publisher-quality book is > >
>>available. Yes, you may validate carefully from the >
> print copy, and > > >>that's wonderful. You are
not in the majority > > though, and Bookshare > >
>>can't just keep books processed by you while > >
getting rid of everyone > > >>else's. All of us here
have put our money, > > time, and energy into > >
>>preparing books for people to read. Yet we do this >
> knowing that someone > > >>could come along and
do a BSO of our book at any > > time. In this case, >
> >>the publisher is doing a BSO, and who is more >
> qualified to provide it > > >>than the publisher?
> > >> > > >>You send your emails
copied to Lisa and Pavi and > > would seem to speak >
> >>for us. You don't speak for many of us because >
> you don't have any > > >>concept of what it's
like to have scanned books > > as your only source for
> > >>reading material. If Bookshare had a magic
button > > where they could > > >>replace
every book with a perfect publisher quality > > version, I
would > > >>celebrate and send the staff some
champagne. There > > are a small number > >
>>of books with hand-written picture descriptions > >
that might be replaced, > > >>and you could contact
Bookshare about those. There > > are literally > >
>>thousands of books in the Bookshare collection that >
> are barely legible > > >>right now. They would
become a pleasure to read if > > replaced. Teachers >
> >>want extremely clean scans for their students to >
> read. The PQ books > > >>provide that and benefit
adult readers as well. I > > just hope they will >
> >>expand the program and that other publishers will
> > work with Bookshare > > >>in the future.
> > >> > > >> > > >>--
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