dear all
first time a post here
I would like to inform you about this post on Schumacher College
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From: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kay Needham
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:48 PM
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Re: epigenetics and trauma: And what
can we do to aleviate this?????
Hello Vinay and others interested in this thread,
There is something about all systemic work that is worth understanding
and is sometimes not seen. That is, that every system is a living system that
grows via
1. Feeding
2. Excreting
The actions of taking in and taking out are essential for growth.
Human beings are also what we refer to as "a dissipative system."
As facilitators we tend to focus on "feeding" and often forget
"excreting."
It is essential for "waste" to move out of a living system also.
Waste is the past.
Waste is the mind.
If we are also feeding with mind we are adding to the waste.
Techniques and meditations that give a taste of no mind are needed to
help clients release the past. Active meditations designed by Osho where
designed for this reason to compliment all forms of therapy working with
trauma. To provide support for body mind opening. These meditations work very
well, and are very scientific in their approach. They are designed to assist
meditation as a tool for transformation.
www.osho.com
Kind regards
Sadhana
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From: Steve Vinay Gunther <spirited@xxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:spirited%40depth.net.au> >
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 6:33 AM
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] Re: epigenetics and trauma: And what can
we do to aleviate this?????
Hi folks
This discussion interests me in terms of understanding something I have
have quite worked out.
In my constellation work I very rarely hear back that someone left it
in some way that didnt work for them. The exception was something that happened
when I worked with some aboriginal students in a Masters of Indiginous studies
and Trauma Healing, at a local Uni. I worked with the class on a number of
occasions, using both Gestalt and constellations work. Everything went really
well - the class really appreciated the approaches, and the therapeutic work
was particularly poignant. When it came to doing the constellation work with
them, it seemed perfect. Within a cultural frame, they could of course
immediately recognise the nature of the work, and they took to it readily.
Because of the extremely complex intergenerational trauma that has resulted
from government policy (removing children from their families), the
constellation work seemed to be highly effective in being able to embrace the
largeness of the trauma, and work with it.
So, everyone was pleased, moved, and reported positively.
Because of the nature of the course, the subject of trauma was
something they were familiar with, and the coordinator of the course spent time
with them talking about it, looking at healing modalities etc. However, what
happened afterward the constellation work I did with them is that over the
course of a number of months, a number of people in the course started to
really act out in quite destructive ways. ALthough none of the students held a
negative impression of the constellation work, the coordinator suspected that
it was the trigger for a flood of trauma which was too much, and hence the
acting out. As a result, I did not get a chance to go back and continue the
work or do any followup.
It seems that the resources of the course, and the individuals, were
not enough to handle what got opened up, even though within the constellations
themselves it appeared a great deal of healing took place. I had recommended
followup work, both individual and collective, but the resources of the uni and
the structure of the course were such that that level of work was not available.
I continue to wonder about that experience, and what to learn from it.
Reading this thread makes me think that this was a situation where the
PTSD/complex trauma was bigger than what the course, or I could offer. It makes
me wonder about what I could have done differently, or whether theres instances
where I need to somehow slow the constellation down, so not too much gets
opened up. This is a strange thought, as I generally just have a sense of
serviing the field in front of me, as it opens up, in its own rhythm.
Interested in people's comments.
Vinay
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