Thank you Gary!
Powerful and touching.
Namaste and see you soon
Anutosh
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Omniscient Ones <Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Annie and all,
I know it is a sticky situation and this seems like a good way to work. I
might suggest that the transformation of the Perpetrator energy will have a
very powerful effect on the person and system too. I know after that energy
is neutralized healing happens as it is unstuck so it can finally heal.
Always remember most perpetrators were victims first....so it is a yin
yang... The LATE Dee Yoh (I miss her) led a Constellation for me in Austria
of Inner Perpetrator/Inner Victim.. it was very powerful. It really showed
my generational male dynamic of being Better then the Father/last generation
not respecting those who came before. AND the internal battle over
it....Neutralizing these energies internally is good don't forget some of
the abuse is a way to show loyalty even a hidden superiority to the
perpetrator.... that too has to be neutralized for healing... The righteous
ones become perpetrators as well...even if they were victims fist.. hence
the CYCLE that repeats into eternity....It really is about unifying
Duality... Both have their place....
I had a very profound experience guided by the greater field last Sat. at
my weekly workshop.... we dealt with a Violent father to be brutalizing his
girlfriend while pregnant with his child... Sure she was the victim and he
was the perpetrator.. but her act of aborting too was perpetrator energy..
they BOTH killed or hurt something they loved... making them equal.. she no
better then him and he no better than her... NOW it is complete...
After this I was Drawn to have us all BOW to the greater force of
Perpetrators on earth and in our lives... then to the victims as well. A NEW
idea popped into my head to finish it by Bowing to the LOVE and LIGHT that
included BOTH unconditional love of the brightest knowledge... This made us
ALL feel that Perpetrator/ Victim were immature small children fighting at
recess in a schoolyard... this light paled those seemingly BIG forces...
WE ALL learned much in its presence.
Namaste Gary Stuart www.chifield.com and Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx
--- In ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Kay Needham
<familyconstellationinfo@...> wrote:
this for a few days and am touched by your involvement here. I agree that
Hello Anni and all,
Anni thankyou for sharing this case with us. I have been meditating on
the intention of any healer serves the client best when the "individuals
holistic personhood" is seen and respected. The representation of
1. the physicalhealing intentions, is support and a loving environment for healing. I would
2. the mental
3. the emotional
4. the spiritualÂ
is, I feel definately the way to go. I observe that the focus of many
like to add another dimension that actually underpins the healing of all
trauma, Â and that is the dimension of awareness or detatched observation.
We cannot change what happened but we can help our clients to detach fromthe trauma. That is to seperate or attain distance from it. In the gaining
of distance we are able to gain perspective, recollect ourself totally, and
move forward, leaving the trauma behind. Love is good however detachment is
the only way out.
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To be able to observe that:this.....................is to help them know the dignity of "detatched
I am not the body
I am not the mind
I am not this emotion............is helpful.
To give our clients an experience of "I am the witness", of all of
observation"..........separation is a natural consequence of this.
enters into a field of non-duality or no polarity. So does the field of love
Witnessing via meditative awareness utilizing detactched observation
and ancesteral support that you describe. All healing happens here. Of
course the facilitator is only able to orchestrate these fields when being
in a state of detatched observation oneself.
Kind regards
Sadhana
From: anni <annimukkala@...>
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxdo to aleviate this?????
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:17 AM
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] Re: epigenetics and trauma: And what can we
posts here and I want to thank each of you who have taken the time to offer
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Hello to all, I have had several private conversations in addition to the
both your personal support and ideas in this particular circumstance.
this I mean that I set up constellation that show representations for the
I often work systemically with the individual's holistic personhood. By
various aspects of the individual such as the physical, mental, emotional,
spiritual, etc. With this in mind, I then work through each of these aspects
to allow solution to manifest. I have begun to work with my client in this
style of work but only at an extremely gentle and intuitive level. The
emotional and physical aspects of the trauma seem to be the first things I
am supporting. I have used the healing touch of gentle Reiki with her to
calm and ease the trauma response. This has so far proven beneficial to her.
to provide and implement.
Some have suggested many other simple and supportive actions I will try
look at victim-perpetrator energy but allow healing energies to be
I am thinking that I may hold a constellation setting where we do not
represented in the circle. My thought is that if we hold representation for
healing love and joy as well as representation for ancestors who are able to
support this family then perhaps the "whole" will embrace the father, mother
and baby in an ocean of safety and wellness. My intention in holding the
circle would not be to heal the perpetrator-victim dynamic but rather to
offer this baby a safe and gentle protective field. Has anyone done this
kind of constellation?
love. I work to loving solutions to issues and I believe that love can heal.
I always work with the intention of my service to be the landscape of
Not to do anything here, for me, in this situation would be to deny my own
opportunity to allow love to become more real in this family. So, I move
forward and continue to ask you all to hold the manifestation of healing
love in your thoughts for a moment as you might read this. Already some have
offered support by prayers to the ancestors. I believe this to be a strong
and effective action.
trauma developed in this family system. May my speaking here of this, be of
I am doing this work pro bono, of course, and last night another family
benefit, sustenance and unity.
by your presence. Thanks. Hoping to talk more to more of you. Anni
Thank you to all who have read these posts. You are offering support just
work in the family systems. The trauma of a pregnant woman may shift the
--- In ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "anni" <annimukkala@> wrote:
This is an interesting article and points to the problems we see as we
epigenetics of her child with which she is pregnant. My goal always in doing
constellations is to find the love oriented solution that might offer hope
and change. To find the problem, of course, is only diagnostic in nature.
with whom I am working and who is 6 plus months pregnant. Since my client
Having said this, I still would like some input on the current client
had a recent and severe trauma, there is a possibility
any solution that we can offer her for this possibility? I will be workingthat the child she is pregnant with may be affected. Is there, then,
with her to deal with the trauma response she is having and will later look
at family systemic issues, but for now, my prime concern is exactly how to
offer her and the baby with which she is pregnant some way of altering the
severity of what the child may be inheriting. Hmmm? Can we do this? Are we
allowed? Is this any different than treating an illness when it is at an
extremely early stage of development? What are some specifics that may alter
the outcome so this baby is not born with difficulties from this trauma? If
we can work with trauma years after it occurs, how do we work trauma in a
pregnancy in the immediate aftermath of the trauma?
wrote:
Anni
--- In ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Gail A" <gail_m_allen@>
9/11 and looking at inherited stress.
Posting a link to a recent study involving children born soon after
to see the research that confirms it.http://www.genomeweb.com//node/978919
We see this inheritance regularly in Constellations - it's grounding
Gail
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