[ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
- From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:32:53 +0100
Hi,
Just been reading up a bit on Sonar 5's step recording and yes, you do need
a means of getting notes into the machine. There was a thread a little
while ago about using the QWERTY keyboard as a note input device - does
anybody have the details, please? If there is a method of doing this, then
we have a complete step recording system with no MIDI controller or keyboard
required.
Best wishes.
Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822
Don't forget to vote for change at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Sandy Licht
Sent: 28 September 2006 00:18
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
Don't you have to use a midi controller of some kind to use step recording?
In Sonar 5, step recording is definitely more user friendly than it was in
Sonar 2.
At 04:28 PM 9/27/2006, Tim Burgess wrote:
>Hi,
>
>There's the step recording mode. Haven't played with it for a while,
>but this method of recording made a lot of folks a lot of money in the
>80s (giving away my age...).
>
>Best wishes.
>
>Tim Burgess
>Raised Bar Ltd
>Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822
>
>Don't forget to vote for change at
>http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rosser
>Sent: 27 September 2006 21:44
>To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
>
>Hi Tim, my name is Ross, I also am wanting to make use of the piano
>roll in sonar 5. I see what you are saying about jaws not being
>accessible in the piano roll window, I was wandering is there any other
>way of creating bassline,synth patterns without using the piano roll.
>Obviously also without using a keyboard or some instrument, I want to
>be able to do it myself on the computer. thanks Ross
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:05 PM
>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
>
>
> > Phil,
> >
> > The Piano Roll is a sort of half-way house between step record
> > editing and editing using the Event View. It's a lot easier for a
> > sighted person to see where notes line up to others at their start
> > and end points when using this view, so it's really useful if you're
> > preparing patterns, drum or otherwise, that you're intending to
> > loop, as you can make note durations, etc, really tight without having
to quantise.
> >
> > Must have another look at it myself to try and figure out how you
> > could express its output in speech and/or Braille, but it certainly
> > wouldn't be easy, though it would be great if we could make it possible.
> >
> > It's absolutely the right thing to do to define to a manufacturer
> > why we need something to work then offer suggestions as to possible
> > methods of making it happen.
> >
> > Best wishes.
> >
> > Tim Burgess
> > Raised Bar Ltd
> > Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822
> >
> > Don't forget to vote for change at
> > http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Phil Muir
> > Sent: 24 September 2006 08:48
> > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
> >
> > Hi Sean!!
> >
> > It's a view that's never been supported by CT. My guess is that, if
> > it were scriptable then, David would have done it by now.
> >
> > I need to take a look at it again. Looked at it briefly however,
> > still not entirely convinced that, it's a view that could be made
> > really accessible in it's current state, ether with CT or, JSonar.
> > For example, if you locate a MIDI note in there, pressing enter on
> > it, won't allow you to alter the value.
> >
> > Also, the various values in the piano roll view, only spoke in
> > JSonar, when I set the Jaws highlight to "Say All." Perhaps if we
> > had a good understanding of what the piano roll view is used for
> > then, we could present a good case to 12 tone, explaining why it
> > doesn't work in it's current state, and what would be required to put it
right.
> >
> > It would be worth you getting some of your eyes over there to take a
> > look at it with you. That would probably confirm it for you.
> >
> > Regards, Phil Muir
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sean A. Cummins" <Sean@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:16 PM
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
> >
> >
> >> Why is that Phil?!
> >>
> >> SeanA!
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