[ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes

  • From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:23:41 +0100

Phil,

It certainly was - don't remember seeing it in any Sonar release.  Does
anybody know of a third-party equivalent?  


Best wishes.

Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822

Don't forget to vote for change at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
 
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Phil Muir
Sent: 28 September 2006 14:03
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes

Think there used to be a vurtual piano a while back.  Mind you, that may
have been in the days of Cakewalk.

Regards, Phil Muir

P J Muir Productions
Music And Audio Production
URL:
www.philmuir.com/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:32 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes


> Hi,
>
> Just been reading up a bit on Sonar 5's step recording and yes, you do 
> need
> a means of getting notes into the machine.  There was a thread a little
> while ago about using the QWERTY keyboard as a note input device - does
> anybody have the details, please?  If there is a method of doing this, 
> then
> we have a complete step recording system with no MIDI controller or 
> keyboard
> required.
>
>
> Best wishes.
>
> Tim Burgess
> Raised Bar Ltd
> Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822
>
> Don't forget to vote for change at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On
> Behalf Of Sandy Licht
> Sent: 28 September 2006 00:18
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
>
> Don't you have to use a midi controller of some kind to use step 
> recording?
> In Sonar 5, step recording is definitely more user friendly than it was in
> Sonar 2.
>
> At 04:28 PM 9/27/2006, Tim Burgess wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>There's the step recording mode.  Haven't played with it for a while,
>>but this method of recording made a lot of folks a lot of money in the
>>80s (giving away my age...).
>>
>>Best wishes.
>>
>>Tim Burgess
>>Raised Bar Ltd
>>Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822
>>
>>Don't forget to vote for change at
>>http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rosser
>>Sent: 27 September 2006 21:44
>>To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
>>
>>Hi Tim, my name is Ross, I also am wanting to make use of the piano
>>roll in sonar 5. I see what you are saying about jaws not being
>>accessible in the piano roll window, I was wandering is there any other
>>way of creating bassline,synth patterns without using the piano roll.
>>Obviously also without using a keyboard or some instrument, I want to
>>be able to do it myself on the computer. thanks Ross
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:05 PM
>>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
>>
>>
>> > Phil,
>> >
>> > The Piano Roll is a sort of half-way house between step record
>> > editing and editing using the Event View.  It's a lot easier for a
>> > sighted person to see where notes line up to others at their start
>> > and end points when using this view, so it's really useful if you're
>> > preparing patterns, drum or otherwise, that you're intending to
>> > loop, as you can make note durations, etc, really tight without having
> to quantise.
>> >
>> > Must have another look at it myself to try and figure out how you
>> > could express its output in speech and/or Braille, but it certainly
>> > wouldn't be easy, though it would be great if we could make it 
>> > possible.
>> >
>> > It's absolutely the right thing to do to define to a manufacturer
>> > why we need something to work then offer suggestions as to possible
>> > methods of making it happen.
>> >
>> > Best wishes.
>> >
>> > Tim Burgess
>> > Raised Bar Ltd
>> > Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822
>> >
>> > Don't forget to vote for change at
>> > http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > On
>> > Behalf Of Phil Muir
>> > Sent: 24 September 2006 08:48
>> > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
>> >
>> > Hi Sean!!
>> >
>> > It's a view that's never been supported by CT.  My guess is that, if
>> > it were scriptable then, David would have done it by now.
>> >
>> > I need to take a look at it again.  Looked at it briefly however,
>> > still not entirely convinced that, it's a view that could be made
>> > really accessible in it's current state, ether with CT or, JSonar.
>> > For example, if you locate a MIDI note in there, pressing enter on
>> > it, won't allow you to alter the value.
>> >
>> > Also, the various values in the piano roll view, only spoke in
>> > JSonar, when I set the Jaws highlight to "Say All."  Perhaps if we
>> > had a good understanding of what the piano roll view is used for
>> > then, we could present a good case to 12 tone, explaining why it
>> > doesn't work in it's current state, and what would be required to put 
>> > it
> right.
>> >
>> > It would be worth you getting some of your eyes over there to take a
>> > look at it with you.  That would probably confirm it for you.
>> >
>> > Regards, Phil Muir
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Sean A. Cummins" <Sean@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:16 PM
>> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Problems Sustaining Notes
>> >
>> >
>> >> Why is that Phil?!
>> >>
>> >> SeanA!
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