[ddots-l] Re: sonar 8.53 and project mix latency.
- From: "Cameron" <cameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:09:58 -0400
Hi. ah, okay. Hmmmm. I don't have another midi interface lying around.
However, my Yamaha S90es does have uSB so perhaps I could use that for the
midi side of things to see if it solves the problem for now.
Will this cause a conflict though? If anybody knows... I seem to recall
trying this out with my Tascam FW1884 a couple years ago and the result was
that sonar would only let you choose one device at a time.
I've been looking on forums etc regarding the project mix and haven't come
across this specific issue... not yet at least.
Thanks,
Cameron.
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 12:16 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sonar 8.53 and project mix latency.
The MIDI out on my ProjectMix triggers my VoiceLive 2, just fine.
That would be a first good try, though. Maybe it doesn't have anything to do
with the audio, but the MIDI.
Bryan
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gordon Kent
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 1:59 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sonar 8.53 and project mix latency.
Are you using the project mix as your midi interface? I seem to remember
there being a problem with the project mix's midi out. If you have
something else to use as a midi interface, try it.
GOrd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cameron" <cameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:51 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sonar 8.53 and project mix latency.
> Hi. well, I'm on the road from today until Friday night so it'll have
> to wait.
>
> No, I haven't used another m audio card with this particular machine yet.
>
> Perhaps it is a driver or interface issue because the presonus and
> motu interfaces worked fine.
>
> That is a good point about the driver... I'll hunt around for more
> user experiences.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cameron.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of D!J!X!
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 2:35 AM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sonar 8.53 and project mix latency.
>
> Hmm not sure then what could be the issue, it seems to be related to
> the card and not the system... Maybe BSmart can help you on that end
> since I believe he's got one of these units. Or somebody else who might
have 1...
> BTW, I guess the last thing to check is driver versions, latest
> doesn't always equal best, see if your driver version has caused
> issues for anybody else... That all sounds kind of strange. Have you
> tried uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers? Have you had any
> other m-audio interface on that same machine/OS session before?
>
> HTH, D!J!X!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of Cameron
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 2:09 AM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sonar 8.53 and project mix latency.
>
> Hi. ti firewire, yes, I've done all that... with this machine, I've
> used two other firewire interfaces with no trouble. The project mix
> won't let me select wdm. It just defaults back to the internal
> soundcard when you try to change the driver mode in sonar.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cameron.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of D!J!X!
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 1:55 AM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sonar 8.53 and project mix latency.
>
> So have you tried wdm? Did this always happen on this machine, or did
> it just start to happen? If this is a firewire unit, you've been
> through all the steps, made sure you have a T.I card, disabled 1394
> networking under control panel>system>hardware>device manager>network
adapters etc?
>
> HTH, D!J!X!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of Cameron
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 1:04 AM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sonar 8.53 and project mix latency.
>
> Hi. yes, already set to acio. And yes, if you play a synth on an
> existing track, you get the same results.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cameron.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of D!J!X!
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:47 AM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sonar 8.53 and project mix latency.
>
> Have you tried switching driver modes from wdm to asio? You say that
> this only happens when new synths are inserted? Meaning that if you
> play synths from projects that you've already done, even if you
> manually play those synths they work? Or do they also exhibit this
latency?
>
> D!J!X!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of Cameron
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:04 AM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] sonar 8.53 and project mix latency.
>
> Hi all. sort of going mental over here and need some tips. (win xp
> pro sp3, intel I7 quad core, 3gb ram, sonar 8.53 producer.)
>
> Just setup my system the other day with my new m audio project mix, ct
> for 8.5, the latest version of hsc, and some new rapture and dimension
> packs I found etc. I thought I'd get totally up to date.
>
> Well, playback of projects is totally fine. I can load a project with
> a dozen instances of soft synths plus audio tracks and it works like a
> charm.
>
> However, when I insert a soft synth into a new project, say, one
> instance of dimension pro or true pianos, there is about a one second
> delay from when you hit a key to when you hear the note you played.
> You can't even play a scale of quarter notes without it missing three
> or four, no matter how slow you play. And fast runs or trills don't
> get reproduced at all.
>
> I didn't have this issue with the firebox I was just using before I
> switched to the project mix. For now I am set to record at 24 bit,
> 44.1. the playback and recording buffer sizes are 256. I played with
> them a bit but got no better latency.
>
> I am having this problem with stand alone instruments too. Like
> Synthogy ivory.
>
> Any tips on what I could do to sort this out?
>
> Also, before anyone asks, yes I am using the external midi, all the
> ins and outs are set correctly and the drivers are checked in Sonar,
> and, I did a reset on the project mix in control panel.
>
> I've never seen latency this bad on an interface! There must be some
> setting I haven't checked...
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cameron.
>
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