[ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound

  • From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:12:04 +0100

Haven't seen anything tagged as this, but you could manufacture it as Mike
suggested then save the result as a track template.  Try doing a Google for
automatic double tracking plugs and see what turns up.

 

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Omar Binno
Sent: 12 July 2010 12:47
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound

 

Tim,

 

Is this effect present in sonar, or through any kind of plugin?

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Tim Burgess <mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  

To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:37 AM

Subject: [ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound

 

It's strange, but this effect used to be called Automatic Double Tracking
(ADT) by FX processors that offered it - the term seemed to be everywhere in
the 80s, but I now can't recall seeing it used at all lately.  Curious.

 

Best wishes.

 

Tim Burgess

Raised Bar Ltd

Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822

 

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mike Christer
Sent: 09 July 2010 19:14
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound

 

First, you've gotta pan each separate track.  

when you copy & paste the original to its nu destination, paste it not
beginning at, for instance, bar 01:01:01, but at bar 01: 01: 025...  

 

along with the panning, this creates the width, akin to quote tracking
unquote, or "double-tracking"...  

 

l8r

 

Mike

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>  

To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:27 PM

Subject: [ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound

 

DJX,

 

if we just copy a track, doesn't it just copy the info from it? so if a
track is recorded stereo with a mono sound like drums, isn't the copied
track gonna be the same, hence not allowing you to get a panned sound?
wouldn't i have to actually play the drum track on a new track and pan them
that way?

----- Original Message ----- 

From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>  

To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:48 PM

Subject: [ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound

 

if you're doing hip hop, here are some ways:

Take to samples that sound similar or that you might already be layering.
split them out to 2 separate tracks and pan them out a bit. If you're only
using 1 sample, take a copy of the track, change the pitch on it a bit and
again play with the panning. Spread the channels out as far as you'd like to
split the sound. The same can be applied to kicks, it all depends on what
kick type you're using. For a bass kick like a tooned 808 or 909, you could
do some of it, for other more thump kicks or dry kicks that serve as gound
for the beat, it might not be a good idea.

Another way of widening the stereo image for any instrument that is mono or
too centered, pan it out to 1 side, then get a delay effect and insert it,
send the delay back on the opposite side and set a small amount of delay.
play with the setting till you get the amount of widening you want. Hard to
explain in writing, this is 1 of those things that works better as a walk
through. 

These are some of the techniques i can think of from the top of my head,
there's more though.

 

HTH, D!J!X!

 


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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Omar Binno
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:22 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] drums a wider sound

Hello,

 

I've gotten the art of making my drums sound decent as far as punchiness,
bass, loudness, etc. What i'm wondering, though, is what's a good way to
make them sound wider? I know drums aren't usually recorded completely
stereo, but i'm listening to radio recordings and the drums sound wider than
they do in my recordings. any plugins or techniques you folks could
recommend?

 

Thanks for all input!

 

 

Omar Binno

 

Website: www.bigoproductions.net
AIM: LOD1116

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