[duxuser] Re: Translation nightmare
- From: "Caryn Navy" <caryn@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:25:57 -0400
Hi Nicki.
I am guessing that the Yiddush and Hebrew lyrics were entered not characters
but transliterated into the familiar Latin alphabet. If so, then you don't
have to worry about using the Hebrew translation table in DBT. You can go
ahead and mark those sections for uncontracted braille as Steve Dresser
recommended. In the print document, press Alt+1 (for grade 1 translation) at
the start of the foreign language material and Alt+2 at the end of the foreign
language material.)
If the German material contains accented letters, then applying the German
style to it in DBT, as George described, gives different results from simply
marking it for grade 1 translation as Steve described. With the German style
applied, the accented letters come out in braille as you might remember them
from German language textbooks in school. For example, the u umlaut comes out
as dots 1256 (the o u sign). But with just the grade 1 marking, the u umlaut
comes out as dot 4 followed by u. That's all irrelevant if the lyrics are
typed without accent marks (for example using u e instead of u umlaut).
Sincerely,
Caryn
----- Original Message -----
From: George Bell
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:00 AM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Translation nightmare
Hi Nicki,
Dealing with German should be relatively easy.
Having typed in the German text, you need to apply DBT's German style to the
text. Simply highlight the German text, then go to the Layout menu and select
Apply Style (or simply press F8). Select "german" from the list, and click on
O.K.
Now Hebrew/Yiddish is another matter, and so I've copied this to one of
Duxbury's Hebrew Braille experts for advice. Meantime, if you go to DBT's Help,
select "Language Translation Tables", and then "Hebrew (American)
Uncontracted", you'll get an initial idea of what it's all about.
That said, unless you speak Hebrew, and know Hebrew braille, I would suggest
the exercise is rather futile. If you are having to sing it, perhaps it would
be better to try and write a phonetic version in your own way.
George.
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nicki keck
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:01 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Translation nightmare
HI all,
Any suggestions on trying to do this would be really helpful.
I am in a choir, and I have words to songs typed out for me. I translate
them, generally, into grade 2 braille and either put them on my Braille Lite or
emboss them. There is one song which I am just not sure if I can translate
adequately, and any suggestions would be helpful. I am still very new to
Duxbury. Granted, this was originally translated with openbook, but I think
unless I do something differently, I will run into the same problem.
This choir director is somewhat of a dope. I hate to say it, but he is.
This one song is in English or alternatively, you could sing it with the first
part being in German, the second part I believe Yiddish, and the third part in
Hebrew. This choir director wants to do all these other languages, I don't
know why, instead of the English. The translation into grade 2 with these
other languages, which my husband painstakingly typed out for me, just was hard
to follow. The German wasn't too bad, though when I took it in high school, I
didn't exactly use grade 2 braille in German. And when you came to the
Yiddish, since I don't know Yiddish at all, I couldn't tell if it was supposed
to be the letter D or do (the contraction for do being D). how can I prepare
these so they will look correct in braille, especially not knowing these
languages? They are all part of the same song. I realize maybe I can separate
the files and then put them together, but even so, though Duxbury may have a
German template, I very much don't think Yiddish is one available nor Hebrew.
I may have to just give up on this one.
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