Well and let’s remember, Apple has been making their own silicon for a long
long time now. They are pretty good at it.
I’m interested to see when they start integrating the networking in to
the unified architecture so imagine having your 5G modem and your other network
interfaces right on the wafer with everything else.
This new architecture really is astoundingly good. I can’t wait to get
mine hopefully next week. The air especially is getting amazing reviews.
On Nov 25, 2020, at 4:38 PM, Robert Carter <nc5rnc5r@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
The new MacBook Air is faster and more responsive than my 2019 16 inch
MacBook Pro. The MacBook Pro has 32GB of RAM and the MacBook Air has 16GB.
When you lift the lid on the MacBook Air it is on instantly and it unlocks
with my Apple Watch or with Touch ID instantly. Much faster than the 2019
MacBook Pro.
Applications open instantly on the Air and are slower to open on the Pro.
The Air is completely cool even with no fan. The Pro often gets quite warm.
I could go on and on but I think you get the idea. Apple’s silicon is beating
the pants off of Intel in every respect. We shouldn’t be surprised, Apple
always shines when it controls both the hardware and software.
Robert Carter
On Nov 25, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Interesting as always, can you perhaps give us more information on your
reasons for recommendation? Do you notice any performance differences
between other MacBooks you may have used etc.
On 26 Nov 2020, at 4:01 am, Robert Carter <nc5rnc5r@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:nc5rnc5r@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi,
I am typing this reply on the new MacBook Air with the M1 processor. I can
say from experience that this new laptop is nothing short of awesome. I
would recommend it without hesitation.
ROBERT CARTER
On Nov 25, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Most does it must just be doing something special that is non standard and
not easily translated.
On Nov 24, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Okay so obvious question, what you saying be so then why is it that Apps
such as Infovox iVox from Assistiveware won’t work on a M1 machine?
On 25 Nov 2020, at 7:05 am, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
So that’s what Rosetta does. It provides a bridge between environments
so code can be run across platforms. Fo example you’ll run some of y
our older apps as well as your iPhone apps and so on.
Clever stuff.
On Nov 24, 2020, at 2:34 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Always interesting to hear your take on stuff like tis Scott and I find
it most informative.
I’m leaning towards the M1 Mac mini for future proofing if nothing
else, I’ve been using the 2012 Mac mini machines I have here for 8
years - not all of course but the original is still going strong - so
if I get 8 years or more out of the M1 machines then I’ll be perfectly
happy thanks very much.
It may be that I’ll come up against Apps that may not work on the M1?
Well only way to find out for sure is to actually use a M1 machine then
at least I’ll have what I know to fall back on if the worst comes to
the worst though I don’t think in those terms unless it becomes
incredibly obvious <smile>.
I see Docuscan Plus has been updated? Well at least the App runs on an
Intel Mac so will it run under Big Sur and a M1 processor?
On 25 Nov 2020, at 5:48 am, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
It’s interesting, in my opinion I see no reason at all really to go
with any Intel based products.
Some of the recent reviews are astounding in terms of
performance and especially thermal characteristics. That unified
design just beats up the competition like a red headed step child.:).
Fastest per core performance, memory access is just ridiculous and in
fact the whole model of how memory is used has changed. With the long
term mass storage, short term memory and processing in a single
unified framework with out the need to do excessive copies and any
number of optimizations really makes the amount of RAM almost
meaningless. Everything is just a blob of data or feature addressable
in silicon operating at unbelievable speeds. Apple did not disappoint
with this one. THere’s a lot of talk out there about the death of X86
and intel losing its shirt. (Among other things). I think it’s early
days yet but for Apple’s first pass being so good the Qualcomm’s,
Intel’s, AMD’s and so forth better take notice. When your entry level
laptop outperforms 98% of the laptops in the market and for truly not
unreasonable money it’s time to take notice.
On Nov 24, 2020, at 1:19 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Interesting about there being no power button on a MacBook Air, I’ve
only worked with one model of air, that being a 2015 model which had
both an Eject key and a power button.
Regardless of that the machine was a joy to use and I’m thinking
about purchasing another MacBook Air, probably won’t buy a M1
machine, not really sure what way I’ll go yet.
It’s the same with the Mac mini, the Mac mini M1 machine is the same
price over here as the Intel Mac mini was a few weeks ago, both
machines are still being sold alongside each other but the Intel Mac
mini is now $200 cheaper than it was whereas the Mac mini M1 is the
same price price as the Intel Mac mini was a few weeks ago so which
to buy?
I’ve been planning on upgrading 1 Mac mini machine for quite some
time now and would have clinched the deal some weeks ago had the
best-laid plans been dealt a blow beyond my control as always happens
<smile>, so when it comes to Mac mini machines? Well in the next
month or so I’ll have plenty to think about and perhaps its just as
well I’ve had to wait a little longer.
On 25 Nov 2020, at 4:37 am, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
aGreed. This move is fine for me. I have an eject key on my
keyboard, Ok, I have no power button on my air which is weird, but
it works.
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On 24 Nov 2020, at 9:17, Dane Trethowan wrote:
To be honest it doesn’t matter what type of issue it is, fact is
that a shutdown or restart for that matter from a keyboard shortcut
can’t be performed from the keyboard of the computer itself, a
feature I greatly miss but no good going on about it as I don’t see
the people at Apple too worried about fixing the issue even if they
wanted to, I mean how are you going to emulate a non existent eject
key on a keyboard?
On 25 Nov 2020, at 4:13 am, <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxx>> <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
That is not a mac book issue it is the operating software it left I
think in catoliena, but it could be one before that.
From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 09:10
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: New mac user
One thing I don’t like about the MacBook Pro machines - from 2015
on - is that there is no way to shutdown the computer from the
keyboard itself, no keyboard shortcut combination in other words.
From my iMac for example I can hold down ctrl-option-command and
eject to shutdown the computer. I suppose this could also be done
on the MacBook if one chose to pair a Magic keyboard with the
machine.
On 24 Nov 2020, at 11:24 pm, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi, I can add to this. They are accessible but I don’t like them
and many sited and blind alike don’t. That being said though it
is accessible. You can either touch approximately where the
control is you want or you can swipe back and forth and then
double tap.
What I do is I use a separate Magic Keyboard which
has all the physical keys. As many may or may not know the
MacBook I think 2017 and on have horrible keyboards. They feel
like you’re typing on mushy peas. This has been addressed I’m
told with recent models, I'm’ excited to try the newer keyboard
which is basically a magic keyboard on the brand new M1 MacBook
Pro. I have a 2017 MacBook Pro and the keyboard is the worst I’ve
ever used, apple should be ashamed. My favorite today is my 2016
MacBook Pro 15 inch model but I’m hopeful the new model compares.
I would not be concerned about using the Touch Bar if you have to
it’s totally doable just in my opinion not the most enjoyable user
experience but others may disagree.
Thanks
On Nov 24, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Shawn Krasniuk (Redacted sender
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<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Manoj. Welcome to the Mac. Essencially what a touch bar
MacBook Pro is is instead of having function keys, they're
replaced by an iphone/ipad like touch bar. I don't have one but
apparently they are accessible for the blind.
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Manoj Govindraj
<manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
So what is a touch bar mac and how accessible is it for the
blind?
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:35 PM John Panarese
<john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
If it’s a Touch Bar Mac, you will need to hold down the
command key and press the power button 3 times. If it doesn’t
have a Touch Bar or you get an external keyboard, then
Command-F5 will work.
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Manoj Govindraj
<manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi John,
Thank you so much for your help. Just a curious question, you
said depending on the laptop. So I am getting a macbook pro
with 8 GB Ram and 512 GB storage. So will I be able to
activate voiceover using command f5 or will need to hold down
the command key and press the power button at the top right
corner 3 times quickly as you suggested?
Manoj
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:00 PM John Panarese
<john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Hi Manoj,
Welcome to the list. I hope you find it helpful for you.
You will need to power on the laptop by pressing the
power button the first time. Then, you should here a recorded
voice that gives you the option to turn on VoiceOver for the
setup process. Depending on what kind of Laptop you have, you
will either press command-Function key 5 or you will hold the
command key down and press the SIRI button at the top right
corner of the keyboard, which is also the power button, three
quick times to activate SIRI. You will have speech throughout
the entire setup process.
and Be sure to navigate and listen to all screens. Holding
down control and option keys with the right or left arrow
will enable you to navigate the screens, and pressing
control-option-spacebar will active the, Next, or, Continue,
buttons on any screen.
Take Care
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