Always interesting to hear your take on stuff like tis Scott and I find it most
informative.
I’m leaning towards the M1 Mac mini for future proofing if nothing else, I’ve
been using the 2012 Mac mini machines I have here for 8 years - not all of
course but the original is still going strong - so if I get 8 years or more out
of the M1 machines then I’ll be perfectly happy thanks very much.
It may be that I’ll come up against Apps that may not work on the M1? Well only
way to find out for sure is to actually use a M1 machine then at least I’ll
have what I know to fall back on if the worst comes to the worst though I don’t
think in those terms unless it becomes incredibly obvious <smile>.
I see Docuscan Plus has been updated? Well at least the App runs on an Intel
Mac so will it run under Big Sur and a M1 processor?
On 25 Nov 2020, at 5:48 am, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It’s interesting, in my opinion I see no reason at all really to go with any
Intel based products.
Some of the recent reviews are astounding in terms of performance and
especially thermal characteristics. That unified design just beats up the
competition like a red headed step child.:). Fastest per core performance,
memory access is just ridiculous and in fact the whole model of how memory is
used has changed. With the long term mass storage, short term memory and
processing in a single unified framework with out the need to do excessive
copies and any number of optimizations really makes the amount of RAM almost
meaningless. Everything is just a blob of data or feature addressable in
silicon operating at unbelievable speeds. Apple did not disappoint with this
one. THere’s a lot of talk out there about the death of X86 and intel losing
its shirt. (Among other things). I think it’s early days yet but for Apple’s
first pass being so good the Qualcomm’s, Intel’s, AMD’s and so forth better
take notice. When your entry level laptop outperforms 98% of the laptops in
the market and for truly not unreasonable money it’s time to take notice.
On Nov 24, 2020, at 1:19 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Interesting about there being no power button on a MacBook Air, I’ve only
worked with one model of air, that being a 2015 model which had both an
Eject key and a power button.
Regardless of that the machine was a joy to use and I’m thinking about
purchasing another MacBook Air, probably won’t buy a M1 machine, not really
sure what way I’ll go yet.
It’s the same with the Mac mini, the Mac mini M1 machine is the same price
over here as the Intel Mac mini was a few weeks ago, both machines are still
being sold alongside each other but the Intel Mac mini is now $200 cheaper
than it was whereas the Mac mini M1 is the same price price as the Intel Mac
mini was a few weeks ago so which to buy?
I’ve been planning on upgrading 1 Mac mini machine for quite some time now
and would have clinched the deal some weeks ago had the best-laid plans been
dealt a blow beyond my control as always happens <smile>, so when it comes
to Mac mini machines? Well in the next month or so I’ll have plenty to think
about and perhaps its just as well I’ve had to wait a little longer.
On 25 Nov 2020, at 4:37 am, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
aGreed. This move is fine for me. I have an eject key on my keyboard, Ok, I
have no power button on my air which is weird, but it works.
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On 24 Nov 2020, at 9:17, Dane Trethowan wrote:
To be honest it doesn’t matter what type of issue it is, fact is that a
shutdown or restart for that matter from a keyboard shortcut can’t be
performed from the keyboard of the computer itself, a feature I greatly
miss but no good going on about it as I don’t see the people at Apple too
worried about fixing the issue even if they wanted to, I mean how are you
going to emulate a non existent eject key on a keyboard?
On 25 Nov 2020, at 4:13 am, <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxx>>
<gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
That is not a mac book issue it is the operating software it left I think
in catoliena, but it could be one before that.
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Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: New mac user
One thing I don’t like about the MacBook Pro machines - from 2015 on - is
that there is no way to shutdown the computer from the keyboard itself, no
keyboard shortcut combination in other words.
From my iMac for example I can hold down ctrl-option-command and eject to
shutdown the computer. I suppose this could also be done on the MacBook if
one chose to pair a Magic keyboard with the machine.
On 24 Nov 2020, at 11:24 pm, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi, I can add to this. They are accessible but I don’t like them and
many sited and blind alike don’t. That being said though it is
accessible. You can either touch approximately where the control is you
want or you can swipe back and forth and then double tap.
What I do is I use a separate Magic Keyboard which has
all the physical keys. As many may or may not know the MacBook I think
2017 and on have horrible keyboards. They feel like you’re typing on
mushy peas. This has been addressed I’m told with recent models, I'm’
excited to try the newer keyboard which is basically a magic keyboard on
the brand new M1 MacBook Pro. I have a 2017 MacBook Pro and the keyboard
is the worst I’ve ever used, apple should be ashamed. My favorite today
is my 2016 MacBook Pro 15 inch model but I’m hopeful the new model
compares. I would not be concerned about using the Touch Bar if you have
to it’s totally doable just in my opinion not the most enjoyable user
experience but others may disagree.
Thanks
On Nov 24, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Shawn Krasniuk (Redacted sender "bbsshawn"
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<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Manoj. Welcome to the Mac. Essencially what a touch bar MacBook Pro
is is instead of having function keys, they're replaced by an
iphone/ipad like touch bar. I don't have one but apparently they are
accessible for the blind.
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
So what is a touch bar mac and how accessible is it for the blind?
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:35 PM John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
If it’s a Touch Bar Mac, you will need to hold down the command key
and press the power button 3 times. If it doesn’t have a Touch Bar or
you get an external keyboard, then Command-F5 will work.
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:manmusical9@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi John,
Thank you so much for your help. Just a curious question, you said
depending on the laptop. So I am getting a macbook pro with 8 GB Ram
and 512 GB storage. So will I be able to activate voiceover using
command f5 or will need to hold down the command key and press the
power button at the top right corner 3 times quickly as you
suggested?
Manoj
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:00 PM John Panarese
<john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Manoj,
Welcome to the list. I hope you find it helpful for you.
You will need to power on the laptop by pressing the power
button the first time. Then, you should here a recorded voice that
gives you the option to turn on VoiceOver for the setup process.
Depending on what kind of Laptop you have, you will either press
command-Function key 5 or you will hold the command key down and
press the SIRI button at the top right corner of the keyboard, which
is also the power button, three quick times to activate SIRI. You
will have speech throughout the entire setup process.
and Be sure to navigate and listen to all screens. Holding down
control and option keys with the right or left arrow will enable you
to navigate the screens, and pressing control-option-spacebar will
active the, Next, or, Continue, buttons on any screen.
Take Care
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