I'm thinking it would be hard to use page numbers for sure. I think (thought) you got physical pages with kindles, but maybe that's not true. IBooks you sure don't though. On Sep 30, 2011, at 12:25 AM, Mike wrote: > Since Kindles and other ebook readers are now being used in schools, I wonder > how teachers assign homework. You can't always say read chapters 1 and 2. > I'm sure most of the time we were given homework to do by page numbers. > > Misha > > On 9/29/2011 6:17 PM, Sandi Ryan wrote: >> I just have to say that books need to continue to have pages when they are >> electronic. I know this is not the norm any more, but how on earth do you >> cite a book properly without its page numbers? How do you find the pages >> you are to read when there is no page navigation? I was part of an IEP for >> a high school student today, and one of the big issues for her teachers is >> her lack of page navigation that would let her read her textbooks in class >> with the rest of the students. >> It's wonderful to have scads of books to read. I'm just not sure that >> wonderfulness outweighs the need for books that can be easily navigated. >> Not to mention that many Braille errors are present in PQ books. That's >> okay for an older woman like me, but for someone learning to read Braille, >> it's not useful. >> Sandi >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Mayrie ReNae <mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> >> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2011 5:34 PM >> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: new books and Daisy navigation, or >> lack of it. >> >> Hi Rik, >> I downloaded the book that you mention, and I'd like to know what >> daisy reader you're using. I can navigate by heading in this book >> just fine. It's true that publisher quality books don't have page >> navigation, because, as we've discussed before on this list, but >> maybe not since you've been back with us, the electronic copies of >> books provided by the publishers to bookshare don't have pages or >> page numbers in them. This is because page numbers and pages are >> only a function of printed books, determined by the size of print >> on a page and the size of the paper used. The publishers choose >> these sizes and tell their printers what to do each time they want >> to print a copy or batch of copies from these electronic copies of >> the books. Please ask more if that part isn't clear. >> Other than that, I see heading navigation for each what appears to >> be a story or chapter of the book using both the xml files, and >> Kurzweil 1000 version 12.04. >> So, if you can tell us what daisy reader you're using, maybe we >> can help you figure out why you don't see any daisy navigation in >> your book. >> Mayrie >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of >> *ohio1803@xxxxx >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2011 2:15 PM >> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] new books and Daisy navigation, or >> lack of it. >> >> *Hi vols,* >> ** >> *This text below is a copy of a message sent to bookshare >> technical support.* >> ** >> I am wondering about DAISY navigation in some of the new books in >> the Bookshare collection. >> ** >> I was very pleased and excited to see a new book just added to the >> collection. It says on the page that it was done by Bookshare >> Staff. So I thought I would just contact Technical Support, to >> see if I could learn, or to give my input. >> ** >> Why do some books really have zero Daisy navigation? >> This new book, that I just downloaded (Here Comes Trouble by >> Michael Moore), really does not even have page navigation. >> ** >> After the preliminary permission text, there is a link in Level 1 >> to "Begin Reading." And the next time I try to go to the next >> navigation point, it goes to "End of text." >> ** >> There are numerous examples of this in other new additions. With >> the earlier books it is understandable. But now? Really? >> ** >> This is way short of what we are capable of, isn't it? >> We have the potential for 3 levels of Daisy navigation in many >> instances with the various recent devices available. And to be >> really providing reading materials, we should be able to access >> them as much as possible with sighted peers, to go to pages, >> chapters, and so on. >> ** >> So, please, let's see about doing this with newly added content to >> our Bookshare Collection. >> ** >> Thank you. >> Richard James >> one of the volunteers, maember since I think 2004 or so. >> d28rik@xxxxxxx >> > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.