Since Kindles and other ebook readers are now being used in schools, I wonder how teachers assign homework. You can't always say read chapters 1 and 2. I'm sure most of the time we were given homework to do by page numbers.
Misha On 9/29/2011 6:17 PM, Sandi Ryan wrote:
I just have to say that books need to continue to have pages when they
are electronic. I know this is not the norm any more, but how on
earth do you cite a book properly without its page numbers? How do
you find the pages you are to read when there is no page navigation?
I was part of an IEP for a high school student today, and one of the
big issues for her teachers is her lack of page navigation that would
let her read her textbooks in class with the rest of the students.
It's wonderful to have scads of books to read. I'm just not sure that
wonderfulness outweighs the need for books that can be easily
navigated. Not to mention that many Braille errors are present in PQ
books. That's okay for an older woman like me, but for someone
learning to read Braille, it's not useful.
Sandi
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mayrie ReNae <mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
*To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2011 5:34 PM
*Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: new books and Daisy navigation, or
lack of it.
Hi Rik,
I downloaded the book that you mention, and I'd like to know what
daisy reader you're using. I can navigate by heading in this book
just fine. It's true that publisher quality books don't have page
navigation, because, as we've discussed before on this list, but
maybe not since you've been back with us, the electronic copies of
books provided by the publishers to bookshare don't have pages or
page numbers in them. This is because page numbers and pages are
only a function of printed books, determined by the size of print
on a page and the size of the paper used. The publishers choose
these sizes and tell their printers what to do each time they want
to print a copy or batch of copies from these electronic copies of
the books. Please ask more if that part isn't clear.
Other than that, I see heading navigation for each what appears to
be a story or chapter of the book using both the xml files, and
Kurzweil 1000 version 12.04.
So, if you can tell us what daisy reader you're using, maybe we
can help you figure out why you don't see any daisy navigation in
your book.
Mayrie
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*Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2011 2:15 PM
*To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] new books and Daisy navigation, or
lack of it.
*Hi vols,*
**
*This text below is a copy of a message sent to bookshare
technical support.*
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I am wondering about DAISY navigation in some of the new books in
the Bookshare collection.
**
I was very pleased and excited to see a new book just added to the
collection. It says on the page that it was done by Bookshare
Staff. So I thought I would just contact Technical Support, to
see if I could learn, or to give my input.
**
Why do some books really have zero Daisy navigation?
This new book, that I just downloaded (Here Comes Trouble by
Michael Moore), really does not even have page navigation.
**
After the preliminary permission text, there is a link in Level 1
to "Begin Reading." And the next time I try to go to the next
navigation point, it goes to "End of text."
**
There are numerous examples of this in other new additions. With
the earlier books it is understandable. But now? Really?
**
This is way short of what we are capable of, isn't it?
We have the potential for 3 levels of Daisy navigation in many
instances with the various recent devices available. And to be
really providing reading materials, we should be able to access
them as much as possible with sighted peers, to go to pages,
chapters, and so on.
**
So, please, let's see about doing this with newly added content to
our Bookshare Collection.
**
Thank you.
Richard James
one of the volunteers, maember since I think 2004 or so.
d28rik@xxxxxxx
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