[ddots-l] Re: Fatter Sound & Remove Noise

  • From: Raywonder <raywonder@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:07:15 -0600

Hey man, not strange at all.
I’d use the same thing.
I’m in to producing hip-hop stuff.
Here’s one of them. <https://www.dropbox.com/s/rnhku8uc0irogya/ABanga.mp3>
and
Aint nothing to me
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1651068/Ain't%20nothin%20to%20me%20tagged.wav>
to get a idea of the type of stuff I do. :p
I was gonna chime in to this and say Reaper uses LSTique version 1 to 3 by
default.
And there pitch shifting plugins really good.
Yes, at some point it’ll fail after a sir tan pitch, but it still is really
really good.
How come other peeps can’t make a really small installer like they do?
And the best part, Reaper’s totally portable!
So, a question for all.
Because of how Reaper’s built, is that meaning that there plugins wouldn’t be
as good as say, some like, Sonar?
Just a thought.

On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Mike Tyo <mtyo@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

As far as being able to pitch shift and change voices along with their
formant, I used a free plug called Rovee for a while. It's okay, but not
great; after all, it's a free plug. I have absolutely nothing against free
plugs, but unfortunately this one is fair at best. It works similar to a
hardware unit called the VT-Voice Transformer - that was made by Roland back
in the '90s. The quality isn't as good as the hardware unit, especially in
how it reproduces things like S sounds as you pitch shift things lower and
match the formant to it.

I have yet to find something that'll do all this on-the-fly, yet maintain
quality with both monophonic and polyphonic sources. I imagine that such a
plug would be rather pricey; and who knows about accessibility. I've heard
there are some things in Sound Forge that might do this; and Gold Wave has
some stuff as well. The algorithms in Sonar don't work worth a crap for the
formant end of it, but you can pitch shift things within reason, and it
sounds pretty good as long as you mess with the parameters to get the results
you want.

I have the Waves Doubler, and it's a great plug for what it's designed to do.
You can work with up to four voices - plus the original signal; and as Chris
mentioned, you can delay them, modulate them, and you can pan and detune them
as well.

I've been looking for this sort of pitch shifting thing for a while; and I've
also been trying to find something that'll allow you to simulate things like
the rapid rewind or fast forwarding of tape. I've got a couple of plugs that
do tape stop and start simulations; so you can get that ramp up or down of
audio as if to create the sound of a turntable being started or stopped while
it's playing the record. I was hoping to be able to use those plugs to record
audio onto a track that's kind of like what used to happen when you speed up
or slow down tape while recording. This may sound rather strange, but I use
these kinds of things in production outside of music tracks.

So there's my $00.02. Anybody out there know of anything that might foot the
bill on this stuff?



Mike



----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 12:27
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Fatter Sound & Remove Noise


mic pops you can remove with an EQ and automation moves. Not sure about the
chair squeaks without hearing them.

As for turning your one voice into several, I believe Waves Doubler can do
up to six duplications, with slight delays, pan positions and modulation.

You could make many coppies of your track, pitch shift them slightly, delay
them individually by slight amounts, modulate each of them slightly, put
reverb or single-repeat delays on some, etc.

I'm not sure how you could pitch shift some of them greatly but keep the
formant sounding natural, turning a man's voice into a woman's for example.
Antares stuff can do harmony parts, but that's pitched singing. Anyone know
if there's a plug-in that can do that sort of thing with spoken word?

This could turn into a really creative discussion, with all the ways there
are to duplicate and slightly alter parts.

Chris

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