ok now i'm the one confused.
You add effects to the FX Bin but access their
parameters in the Inspector, that is, unless the
effects have been scripted or hot spotted.
Question: With the Waves stuff, have you found
meaninful parameters displayed in the
Inspector? A lot of the time here, I see
accurate names, like attack and release and
threshold on a compressor, but not real world
values in dB and milliseconds. Often, I just see
percentages. I guess it isn't a big problem
since we're supposed to use our ears when
adjusting things anyway, but the geek in me wants
to know what's going on numerically. (grin)
I have Waves version 8 stuff here. Perhaps things have improved with version 9?
Chris
At 11:24 AM 12/22/2015, you wrote:
Nope, I understood. MY response was misleading.
My question is why is there a difference between the way the inspector
looks at vst parameters compared to just bringing them up from the
effects bin in Sonar or or the effects menu in SF?
Are you saying that the inspector doesn't have a front end
(presentation) layer and the regular track effects does?
Thanks,
Floyd...
On 12/22/15, Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> no no the plug-ins are listed. I'm talking about
> the parameters being exposed, which is why they
> show up in the Inspector in Sonar where you can adjust them.
>
> Sorry if I said plugins and meant parameters.
>
>
> At 09:54 AM 12/22/2015, you wrote:
>>Thanks all,
>>
>>I'll try the left and/or right bracket thing for changing on/off
>>switches in the inspector.
>>
>>Chris, I'm a bit confused about what you said about the inspector
>>exposing the third party plug-ins to the vst host within Sonar.
>>
>>Why would the inspector be necessary to expose them?
>>
>>I still have all of my Waves and some SoundForge plug-ins right there
>>in my VST list without using the inspector but most of the parameters
>>are not accessible. The same is true for Waves within SF. What's the
>>difference?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 12/21/15, Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hi Floyd.
>> > Parameters showing up in the Inspector is not a
>> > CakeTalking trick. They're just exposed to the
>> > VST host application, in this case, sonar.
>> >
>> > Try this:
>> > Really lean on left or right bracket for awhile
>> > and you can usually change the off/on type toggles just fine.
>> >
>> > Also, on any of the four parameters shown, simply
>> > hit the applications key. Then Up Arrow once to
>> > the "reassign Control" sub-menu, and hit a Right
>> > Arrow. Pick anything from the list and hit ENTER
>> > to have it now fill one of the four slots in the inspector.
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>> > At 08:28 PM 12/21/2015, you wrote:
>> >>Hey Mike,
>> >>
>> >>I've been trying the inspector after your suggestions the other day.
>> >>Works pretty well.
>> >>
>> >>I haven't tried to get a second level of more than 4 parameters with
>> >>Waves yet though. I'm hoping the presets will become available as one
>> >>of them. I'll find out tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >>I'm noticing that some parameters with 'on' 'off' choices are stuck
>> >>'on'. They won't move.
>> >>I'm guessing this is due to other dependent parameters but not sure.
>> >>
>> >>I have to admit I'm impressed though. I can't imagine how David Pinto
>> >>scripted this to pull the parameter label names of third party
>> >>plug-ins.
>> >>
>> >>I've tried to pull the parameter labels of Waves plug-ins in
>> >>SoundForge with HSC. No dice...
>> >>
>> >>thanks for your help,
>> >>Floyd...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>On 12/21/15, Mike Tyo <mtyo@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > I don't think so. Some DAWs have pitch shifting plugs that are
>> >> > better
>> >> > than
>> >> > others. The built-in algorithm in Sonar that deals with formant
>> >> > just
>> >> > doesn't cut the mustard. The VVocal editor is good, but it takes
>> >> > time
>> >> > to
>> >> > process tracks with it because you have to
>> >> deal with small chunks of data at
>> >> > a time. I'm sure there's stuff out there, but there may be
>> >> > accessibility
>> >> > issues; and you'll most likely be dealing with a fairly pricey plug
>> >> > to
>> >> > get
>> >> > the desired quality.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any other thoughts?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: Raywonder
>> >> > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 13:07
>> >> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Fatter Sound & Remove Noise
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Hey man, not strange at all.
>> >> > Iâd use the same thing.
.
>>.
>> >> > Iâm in to producing hip-hop stuff.
.
>>.
>> >> > Hereâs one of them.
.
>>.
>> >> > and
>> >> > Aint nothing to me
>> >> > to get a idea of the type of stuff I do. :p
>> >> > I was gonna chime in to this and say Reaper
>> >> uses LSTique version 1 to 3 by
>> >> > default.
>> >> > And there pitch shifting plugins really good.
>> >> > Yes, at some point itâll fail after er a
>> sir tantan pitch, but it still
>> >> > is
>> >> > really really good.
>> >> > How come other peeps canât make a
a
>> really smalmall installer like they
>> >> > do?
>> >> > And the best part, Reaperâs totally ly portable!
>>!
>> >> > So, a question for all.
>> >> > Because of how Reaperâs built, is th that
>>t
>> >> meaning that there plugins wouldnât
t
>>t
>> >> > be as good as say, some like, Sonar?
>> >> > Just a thought.
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