[ddots-l] Re: Fatter Sound & Remove Noise

  • From: "Mike Tyo" <mtyo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:17:36 -0500

As far as being able to pitch shift and change voices along with their formant, I used a free plug called Rovee for a while. It's okay, but not great; after all, it's a free plug. I have absolutely nothing against free plugs, but unfortunately this one is fair at best. It works similar to a hardware unit called the VT-Voice Transformer - that was made by Roland back in the '90s. The quality isn't as good as the hardware unit, especially in how it reproduces things like S sounds as you pitch shift things lower and match the formant to it.

I have yet to find something that'll do all this on-the-fly, yet maintain quality with both monophonic and polyphonic sources. I imagine that such a plug would be rather pricey; and who knows about accessibility. I've heard there are some things in Sound Forge that might do this; and Gold Wave has some stuff as well. The algorithms in Sonar don't work worth a crap for the formant end of it, but you can pitch shift things within reason, and it sounds pretty good as long as you mess with the parameters to get the results you want.

I have the Waves Doubler, and it's a great plug for what it's designed to do. You can work with up to four voices - plus the original signal; and as Chris mentioned, you can delay them, modulate them, and you can pan and detune them as well.

I've been looking for this sort of pitch shifting thing for a while; and I've also been trying to find something that'll allow you to simulate things like the rapid rewind or fast forwarding of tape. I've got a couple of plugs that do tape stop and start simulations; so you can get that ramp up or down of audio as if to create the sound of a turntable being started or stopped while it's playing the record. I was hoping to be able to use those plugs to record audio onto a track that's kind of like what used to happen when you speed up or slow down tape while recording. This may sound rather strange, but I use these kinds of things in production outside of music tracks.

So there's my $00.02. Anybody out there know of anything that might foot the bill on this stuff?



Mike



----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 12:27
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Fatter Sound & Remove Noise


mic pops you can remove with an EQ and automation moves. Not sure about the chair squeaks without hearing them.

As for turning your one voice into several, I believe Waves Doubler can do up to six duplications, with slight delays, pan positions and modulation.

You could make many coppies of your track, pitch shift them slightly, delay them individually by slight amounts, modulate each of them slightly, put reverb or single-repeat delays on some, etc.

I'm not sure how you could pitch shift some of them greatly but keep the formant sounding natural, turning a man's voice into a woman's for example. Antares stuff can do harmony parts, but that's pitched singing. Anyone know if there's a plug-in that can do that sort of thing with spoken word?

This could turn into a really creative discussion, with all the ways there are to duplicate and slightly alter parts.

Chris

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