[duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
- From: JHawley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:04:05 -0500 (EST)
Thanks, Juanita
Quoting "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press" <brailleit@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Aloha Juanita and all,
>
> I totally understand why you may prefer to work in DBT. When I first
> started all of this translation, the importers from Word weren't that
> great
> and I found that to get the result I wanted, it was easier to work in
> DBT.
> I tend to code all of the necessary things in the dxp file and then work
>
> from the Braille, but this may be because I am a longtime Braille
> reader.
>
> Many of the documents I receive from others that have been created in
> Word
> are coded very badly, so if I edit in DBT I think it is faster.
>
> So, some may say that you need to be working in Word, but if you are
> getting the results you want, I say don't change it if it ain't broke.
> Betsy
>
>
> At 11:15 AM 1/27/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >George,
> >I have had to teach myself to use Duxbury and Braille over the years. I
> am a
> >sighted aide and would like to know if there is a tutorial for Word for
>
> >Windows
> >to Duxbury. Since my new update of Duxbury, which I love, I found it is
>
> >easier
> >to just work there and print directly from it. Am I doing all of this
> >incorrectly? (Setting up tests and worksheets for teachers). Juanita
> >
> >Quoting George Bell <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > I should stress that what I am about to say, mainly applies to the
> > > large
> > > number of sighted DBT users, for whom braille may be just a small
> part
> > > of their organisations daily work.
> > >
> > > If it were only practical, possible and above all, affordable, I'm
> > > sure
> > > Duxbury would ideally like to buy in some kind of licence for a
> top
> > > end
> > > Word Processor.
> > >
> > > My own attitude, which has developed over many years, is that the
> vast
> > > majority of editors in braille programs are just that - editors.
> They
> > > are for final last minute tweaking.
> > >
> > > As DBT has evolved, especially over the last year or two, I have
> > > tended
> > > to use Word for Windows as my primary preparation program.
> > >
> > > One of the main reasons for this, is that Word is so commonly used
> in
> > > the non-braille world, that it is much easier for me to develop a
> DBT
> > > user's existing Word skills, than try to teach them the
> intricacies,
> > > foibles and nuances of DBT's editor and codes right from the
> outset.
> > >
> > > Given a well formatted Word document, one can be in and out of
> DBT,
> > > and
> > > have the embosser rattling away in a relatively short time.
> > >
> > > Our biggest challenge when we run training courses, is to teach
> the
> > > proper use of Word itself. Styles and Templates being the area
> where
> > > most people get stuck. However, it is highly gratifying to hear
> > > students commenting on how much more efficient their daily use of
> Word
> > > has become as a result. Once they begin to understand such things
> in
> > > Word, when it is applied to braille, again it is more easily
> > > understood.
> > >
> > > One embosser manufacturer's tag phrase is, "We make it easy to
> produce
> > > braille". That's exactly what I aim to do when we are training
> > > people,
> > > especially those new to braille.
> > >
> > > Contrary to popular opinion, braille is not exactly rocket
> science.
> > > So
> > > let's try and keep as much mystery out of it as possible, and make
> > > braille more easily and readily available for its readers.
> > >
> > > George Bell
> > > Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Steve Dresser [mailto:s.dresser@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: 24 January 2003 21:17
> > > > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 1/24/03 12:30 George Bell wrote:
> > > > >However, where do we draw the line between a braille
> translation
> > > > >package and a word processor?
> > > > I know what you're saying, George, but that line was obscured
> > > > the minute an
> > > > editor became part of DBTW.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
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