[duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list

  • From: "Ben Blagg" <bblagg@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 05:50:44 -0600

George, write to me off list and tell me more about Swift, where to get it
and how to install it.  thanks.

Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bell" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:31 AM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list


> Hi Juanita,
>
> I think the simple answer is, that if it works for you, stay with it.
>
> As regards Tutorials for Word, there are many good ones in the
> bookshops.  My own favourite is "Running Word 2000" by Charles Ruben,
> available from Microsoft Press (ISBN 1-57231-943-7)
>
> Although it's a 900 odd page tombe, costing $39.99, I found it is worth
> every hard earned cent.
>
> George Bell
> Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jhawley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Jhawley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 27 January 2003 16:15
> > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> >
> >
> > George,
> > I have had to teach myself to use Duxbury and Braille over
> > the years. I am a
> > sighted aide and would like to know if there is a tutorial
> > for Word for Windows
> > to Duxbury. Since my new update of Duxbury, which I love, I
> > found it is easier
> > to just work there and print directly from it. Am I doing all of this
> > incorrectly? (Setting up tests and worksheets for teachers). Juanita
> >
> > Quoting George Bell <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > I should stress that what I am about to say, mainly applies to the
> > > large number of sighted DBT users, for whom braille may be just a
> > > small part of their organisations daily work.
> > >
> > > If it were only practical, possible and above all, affordable, I'm
> > > sure Duxbury would ideally like to buy in some kind of
> > licence for a
> > > top end
> > > Word Processor.
> > >
> > > My own attitude, which has developed over many years, is
> > that the vast
> > > majority of editors in braille programs are just that -
> > editors.  They
> > > are for final last minute tweaking.
> > >
> > > As DBT has evolved, especially over the last year or two, I have
> > > tended to use Word for Windows as my primary preparation program.
> > >
> > > One of the main reasons for this, is that Word is so
> > commonly used in
> > > the non-braille world, that it is much easier for me to
> > develop a DBT
> > > user's existing Word skills, than try to teach them the
> > intricacies,
> > > foibles and nuances of DBT's editor and codes right from the outset.
> > >
> > > Given a well formatted Word document, one can be in and out of DBT,
> > > and have the embosser rattling away in a relatively short time.
> > >
> > > Our biggest challenge when we run training courses, is to teach the
> > > proper use of Word itself.  Styles and Templates being the
> > area where
> > > most people get stuck.  However, it is highly gratifying to hear
> > > students commenting on how much more efficient their daily
> > use of Word
> > > has become as a result.  Once they begin to understand such
> > things in
> > > Word, when it is applied to braille, again it is more easily
> > > understood.
> > >
> > > One embosser manufacturer's tag phrase is, "We make it easy
> > to produce
> > > braille".  That's exactly what I aim to do when we are training
> > > people, especially those new to braille.
> > >
> > > Contrary to popular opinion, braille is not exactly rocket science.
> > > So
> > > let's try and keep as much mystery out of it as possible, and make
> > > braille more easily and readily available for its readers.
> > >
> > > George Bell
> > > Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Steve Dresser [mailto:s.dresser@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: 24 January 2003 21:17
> > > > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 1/24/03 12:30 George Bell wrote:
> > > > >However, where do we draw the line between a braille translation
> > > > >package and a word processor?
> > > > I know what you're saying, George, but that line was obscured
> > > > the minute an
> > > > editor became part of DBTW.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
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