First off, just love the WOC show. It was my first and luckily I was able to make it in time to purchase some goodies for my VIC and C64. Love all the vendors and the people I met, it was great and I definitely will come next year. Hopefully I won't need to rescue someone from that storm like we had that weekend and miss out most of the show. Luckily I came in time to make some purchases, the vendors were very helpful and patient with me, and saw many interesting and hard to find products for commodore computers. One in particular was Jim Brain's uIEC which looks very promising in terms of low cost storage for my VIC and C64. An excellent solution to those with many floppies and cassettes stacking on their shelves. Some slowly degrading over time. Just wondering if anyone has contacted Jim in terms of sending the programmer to TPUG, so those of us who purchase the bugged uIEC's would have a workable uIEC to play around with. Just eager to try this baby out. Mav... Rui Soares Crazy in love with Mai-Liis and flying.