That's what I was thinking of doing, I had looked at a picture of a C64 motherboard on wikipedia and it looks as though the back of the IEC connector has all the pins going to the motherboard installed. I could solder onto those pins and keep the port. I'm planning on keeping it drive 8 though, but that can be changed on the device with a simple command anyways. Dan From: "Brian Lyons" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [torontocbm] Re: Bugged firmware uIEC's and Jim Brain... Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:12:52 -0500 ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Rather than just posting some speculation 8-| > > I had a look at; > > relevant section of 1540 schematic: > http://staff.washington.edu/rrcc/uwweb/1541early/1540-1.GIF > > relevant section of 1541 schematic: > http://staff.washington.edu/rrcc/uwweb/1541/1541-1.GIF > > relevant section of 1571 schematic: > http://staff.washington.edu/rrcc/uwweb/1571/c1571-b4.gif > > relevant section of 1581 scheamtic: > http://staff.washington.edu/rrcc/uwweb/1581/3OF4.GIF > > > It is clear that 2nd serial port is merely directly wired > to 1st serial port jack. > > Thus, a properly constructed Y cable should not present > difficulties on the serial bus. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Bourdeau" <jeffobourdeau@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 5:05 PM > Subject: [torontocbm] Re: Bugged firmware uIEC's and Jim > Brain... > > > >I thought I read something in Compute! or Compute!s > Gazette where that idea >was only good on a limited # of > devices using the Commodore Bus but many >devices wont > work properly if you try to setup a y-style of physical > >connection...but that was some time ago & perhaps the > info is outdated >now.....they commented on how the bus > inside, for example, the back of a >1541 is wired > differently and has supporting chips to keep the data > flowing >for each device properly which is what is needed > for true transparency & >compatibility. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Leif Bloomquist" <leif@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 4:56 PM > > To: <torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: [torontocbm] Re: Bugged firmware uIEC's and Jim > Brain... > > >> Daniel Kovacs wrote: > >> > >>> other thing I was thinking of was to solder to the > exposed pins on the >>> back of the port, but then would > it cause any damage to attach a drive >>> and the UIEC at > the same time? >> > >> This is what I was planning to do with my uIEC sometime > - install it >> inside my VIC-20 as an internal device > #10, but keep the external IEC >> port so I can still use > external drives at the same time. >> > >> In theory, this should work fine - it would be no > different than using an >> IEC "Y" splitter cable (which > do exist). But I haven't tried it. Could >> someone with > more electronics knowledge comment? >> > >> -Leif > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Leif Bloomquist > >> leif(at)schemafactor(dot)com > >> http://home.ica.net/~leifb/ > >> > >> "It's better to light a candle, than curse the > darkness." >> > > > > > >