Hi,
I've been running into this problem myself. I actually built a pc from
scratch to put windows 7 on, since my laptop runs windows 10 and its
too much of a hassle to downgrade it, put an old version of JAWS on
it, put sonar on it, make sure all the hot spots work etc.
The classic theme, I think, is used for x-y coords, colors etc. I
believe the resolution may not exceed a certain ratio either for CT to
work, am I wrong?
Ideally, a paid for product like CakeTalking should be upgraded to
work with windows 8+ since it's been a number of years now and it's
pretty clear that the classic theme is not coming back.
There's two problems with that statement though:
- Sonar 8.5, itself, is very old software. If an upgrade for windows
8+ should be performed, the version of Sonar will likely have to be
upgraded as well. I don't know how much information the latest version
of Sonar gives screenreader script writers to work with, however, so I
don't know if that is a feasible option.
- The second point is , at least from what I am seeing, the decline of
both Sonar and JAWS. I honestly only still use JAWS for Sonar, for the
rest my copy of NVDA suffices. The same can be said for Sonar only
being useful for me still due to the extensive scripts. Reaper 5 with
the Osara add-on is slowly but surely getting better each day and in
that regard mainly the hotspot sets written by Steve and others keep
me from switching to that DAW completely. You gotta admit that,
roughly, 1000 dollars for JAWS, + 300 for caketalking, + x-hundred for
sonar 8.5 is quite a bit less appealing than , what do Reaper licenses
go for these days, 50 bucks?
I'll be a sonar user for a while yet, due to the Kontakt scripts, the
way a lot of Sonar's built-in FX work with CT, the OrangeTree sets and
perhaps later the Melodyne sets etc. but the fact that CT has
literally not been updated in years with no plans to do so does
seriously rub me the wrong way.
To get back on topic, the classic theme is gone and the hacks out
there that simulate it are hacks at best. They may visually be enough
to please jpeople who want the windows 7 look, but I'll not believe
for a second that CT will work well with them unless the scripts are
updated ...which they apparently aren't going to be.
Regards,
Florian
2015-12-21 11:23 GMT+01:00, Steve S <stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx>:
Thanks Bill. If you get a chance to ask him I'd be interested to know whatPLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE!
exactly the sticking point is, as I'd of thought position of co-ordinates
are determined by the screen res and not the theme? Could be wrong, but
there's obviously something that is making the change to Win 10
insurmountable, but I can't think what it is unless it is colour...but
colours can be changed of course. Best Steve.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 1:44 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 Classic Theme
Good question for Mr. Pinto, Steve. But I believe it relies on the Classic
theme for more than color. I believe it allows the scripts to accurately
predict X-Y positions of screen objects.
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve S
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 5:32 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 Classic Theme
Ok, so CT relies on the Classic theme, but what specifically is it relying
on? Is it just colour? Jaws is hopeless at determining colour in my
experience, as it's very flakey to say the least. HSC uses another DLL for
colour recognision, so just wondering what the sticking point is. Best
Steve.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 6:44 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 Classic Theme
Hi,
If anyone finds a way to fabricate the Windows Classic theme in versions of
Windows later than Windows7, please let us know. That is, if you can
fabricate the Windows Classic theme and make it so that CakeTalking works as
it should. As far as I know, David Pinto tried and failed to create a
Windows Classic Theme that would work with CakeTalking under Windows8 and
later as it does with Windows7 and earlier.
Here's an entry we need to add to our CakeTalking FAQ page:
Will CakeTalking Work when Installed under Windows8 and 10?
Regretfully, CakeTalking will not run under Windows 10, Windows8. or 8.1.
If you want to upgrade to any of those versions of Windows from Windows7 or
earlier, our recommendation would be to set up some kind of dual boot so
that you would have the option to startup into Windows7 to use SONAR with
CakeTalking or into the newer version of Windows.
Microsoft dropped support for their Windows Classic theme with release of
Windows8. Since CakeTalking relies on that theme to know the position of
certain objects on the screen, major functions of CakeTalking fail under
Windows8 and 10.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Can Kirca
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 1:04 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 Classic Theme
As an alternative, you can read following topic;
http://www.howtogeek.com/133405/how-to-get-classic-style-themes-back-on-windows-8/
2015-12-20 19:40 GMT+02:00, Phil Muir <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
The Windows Classic theme doesn't exist in Windows 10. The only
option is to copy it from a Windows 7 install. However, keep in mind
that even if you can do that and get it working then you may well be
compramising other features in Windows 10.
On 20 December 2015 17:32:51 GMT+00:00, Roger Baccus
<rogerbaccus@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
How do I change to Windows Classic Theme in Windows 10? I read that it
is in the Privacy tab, but, I can’t seem to get it! Please help.
CakeTalking is not happy!
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