Hi Phil, and Brian, Vista certainly has its issues, but I have frankly enjoyed using it due to the wsappi drivers, which makes it possible for me to take fulladvantage in using the input monitoring in Sonar giving me full access to panning, and proper volume control. I agree that vista is on its way out, and have tried a beta of windows 7, of course not using the scripts, or Sonar, and I can tell you that Windows 7 is definatly going to run smoother. Although I certainly hope the folk at Microsoft are going to give us Vista users a bit of a break. However I've certainly noticed a difference in Survice pac2 of Windows vista which I just downloaded a couple of days ago with responce.
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To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:05 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: a bit jammed up on an experiment Phil, I understand that you might personally be using only Cakewalk instruments and other modern plug ins, but you probably aren't aware of how many blind guys are still using the Edirol plugs, Hypersonic II, the Korg plugs, and all sorts of legacy stuff because they're comfortable with operating them. It pains me, but many people are using Cakewalk TTS-1, and they're completely satisfied, as amazing as that sounds. Not that TTS-1 has a problem on 64-bit, though. Just saying to give you an idea about the old school mindset that goes on. Your conspiracy theory remarks are amusing as always. I'm not trying to talk you out of going 64-bit. If you know of a 64-bit access solution for Sonar, by all means, go ahead an use it. We've publicly stated that 64-bit support is on the CakeTalking roadmap, and there is active work toward that goal. As yet, though, this work isn't even in beta, so it will be a little time yet before we can say anything here. Until then, you'll just have to make due with 3.5GB of memory in Sonar. *smile* However, I agree completely about Vista. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Muir Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 4:37 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: a bit jammed up on an experiment Bryan wrote: But you won't want to, because most of the softsynths and effects that blind people use are still 32-bit, and won't run well in the 64-bit Sonar. Phil replied: Hmm, all of Sonar's native .VST/.DXi audio affects E.G, the entire Sonitus suite, Pantheon reverb etc and softsynthes are coded for 64 bit. Also, all 32 bit .VST softsynthes will run in a 64 bit environment. That would only leave 32 bit .DXi's which won't run in a 64 bit environment. Personally I don't run any of those so your "blind" comment" doesn't apply to me. Bryan wrote: Even most sighted people still use 32-bit Sonar on 64-bit Windows for this reason. Phil replied: Hmm, not so sure about that, smile. Think your just trying to talk us out of going entirely 64 bit because CT doesn't currently support that, grin. Bryan wrote: So 32-bit Sonar on 64-bit Windows will be the top of the mountain for quite a few years to come. Phil replied: we shall see! Bryan wrote: You still can use up to 3GB of RAM in Sonar when working this way, which is 50% more than you could on 32-bit Windows, so there is definitely a benefit. Phil replied: agreed. I would imagine that this is not the same as enabling the 3GB switch in XP because if you do that in XP, your still bound by the constraints of a 32 bit operating system. Bryan wrote: Plus, the wsapi drivers in Vista and Windows 7 allow for 0-latency direct monitoring, and the multimedia scheduler helps give priority to recording apps. Phil replied: agreed. Bryan wrote: XP will very soon be old news. Phil replied: and so will Vista, grin. From what I hear, Windows 7 runs way less overhead when running than Vista. Won't be bothering with Vista here but will almost certainly go for Windows 7 when it comes out. That's assuming that they don't come out with a 64 bit version of Jaws that supports running the 64 bit version of XP. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/ PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subjectúq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribeFor other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link:
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