[ddots-l] Re: a bit jammed up on an experiment

  • From: "Sean A. Cummins" <seanacummins@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:45:58 -0700

Hey Phil,

Not to burst your bubble, but I'm working in Sonar 32 in Vista 64 just
fine.  CakeTalking is working so far so good.

This new machine with the Intel I7 quad core, the , X58 chip set with
6 gigs of triple thread memory, is heaven!  I haven't had one drop out
as of yet.  I have been checking meders during recording and playback
and jumping to tracks all over the place with JAWS and never once, no,
not once, have I had a drop out yet.

Sean


On 6/3/09, Phil Muir <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hmm, why would you do that as there's a 64 bit version of Sonar on the DVD.
> Hmm, I think you can actually install both the 32 and 64 bit versions of
> Sonar side by side.  Anyway, it's all a bit academic as we don't have a 64
> bit SonarJaws.dll for Cake Talking yet.
>
> Regards, Phil Muir
>
> P J Muir Productions,
> Music And Audio Production
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Sean A. Cummins
>   To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:04 PM
>   Subject: [ddots-l] Re: a bit jammed up on an experiment
>
>
>   Hey Bryan,
>
>   On that note... if using Sonar in 32 bit mode with Vista Ultimate 64,
> will you receive the benefit of more RAM that Vista can address, or is it
> limited to the 32 bit function of Sonar.
>
>   Sean
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Bryan Smart
>     To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:22 AM
>     Subject: [ddots-l] Re: a bit jammed up on an experiment
>
>
>     It is true that only a little over 3GB of RAM is accessible to the
> 32-bit version of XP. However, you need to use identical pairs of RAM sticks
> if you want DDR memory to operate at full speed. This means 2 sticks of 2GB
> each. If you use a 2GB and a 1GB stick, the memory bus will run at a reduced
> rate. Slower memory slows down practically everything in Sonar. Besides,
> what is 4GB of RAM now? $80?
>
>     By the way, the /3GB switch still won't let XP use more than 3GB of
> memory. On XP Pro, a single application isn't able to use any more than
> about 1.8GB. Using the /3GB switch will let an application use up to 3GB of
> memory. However, it really doesn't matter, since the /3GB switch will
> frequently cause Jaws to blue screen the computer when Jaws starts.
>
>     Finally, while Sonar technically permits an unlimited number of tracks,
> CakeTalking will only support up to 99. If you add more than 99 tracks to
> your project, you'll start to encounter strange behavior. Even extremely
> fast dual processor systems won't run so well with more than a hundred
> tracks of audio.  Every time you press play or record, the computer must
> fill up the mixing buffer with the beginning of over a hundred separate
> files. That is a massive amount of seeking for the hard drive head, and
> means that there will be a long lag before you actually hear anything. This
> probably won't be a problem in a few years when we'll be using solid state
> drives for recording, since they have near-instant seek times.
>
>     Bryan
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Phil Muir
>     Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 3:58 PM
>     To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     Subject: [ddots-l] Re: a bit jammed up on an experiment
>
>
>     Don't know but, there's no point purchasing extra RAM as your running XP
> pro 32 bit and wouldn't be able to run any more RAM than up to 3GB with the
> 3GB switch.  Hmm, may be worth looking at when Windows 7 comes out and Cake
> Talking and HotSpotClicker become 64 bit compatible.
>
>     Regards, Phil Muir
>
>     P J Muir Productions,
>     Music And Audio Production
>     Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>     UK+44-1747-821-794
>     Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>     E-mail:
>     info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>     URL:
>     www.philmuir.com/
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Greg Brayton
>       To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:53 PM
>       Subject: [ddots-l] Re: a bit jammed up on an experiment
>
>
>       Well I think I'll try that, I do have four gigs of ram, but I guess
> that's still not enough eh? Wonder how much ram you'd need to do that?
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Phil Muir
>         To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:01 AM
>         Subject: [ddots-l] Re: a bit jammed up on an experiment
>
>
>         Hmm, have you tried selecting half of the project say the first 10
> minutes?  Exporting that then, selecting the other half and exporting that?
> Then you could paste them end to end in Sound forge.
>
>         Regards, Phil Muir
>
>         P J Muir Productions,
>         Music And Audio Production
>         Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>         UK+44-1747-821-794
>         Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>         E-mail:
>         info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>         URL:
>         www.philmuir.com/
>           ----- Original Message -----
>           From: Greg Brayton
>           To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>           Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:04 PM
>           Subject: [ddots-l] a bit jammed up on an experiment
>
>
>           I call the peace, "how many",
>           as in how many tracks can I get in this peace.
>           Well I seemed to have reached my limmit at, 115.
>           The peace is 20 minutes long.
>           Most of the soft synths have been bounced to audio tracks, but
> when I select all to export it to wave,
>           it says I haven't enough memory. The drive I'm exporting to has
> over 300 gigs free. What memory is it telling me I'm out of?
>           Can I fix it with out exporting it to several wave files and
> putting them back together in another project?
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