When I import a document from Word into DBT it comes in with the dots 46 for the underlines. This is an awesome problem when I do contracts as I have bunches of lines with the underlines on them. I use the Search and Replace feature and replace all the underlines with either a space or dash depending on what I'm doing. Deb B. -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steve Dresser Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 8:49 PM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: Dilemma, How to Train Sighted Staff to Do Braille using DBT Hi Sylvie, I usually do all my cleanup work in DBT, my assumption being that braille will be my final product. I wonder what DBT does with a whole group of underlines in an imported Word document. I'll have to experiment with that and see. If it does what I hope it does, there might be a fairly easy and fast way to clean things up. Incidentally, I'm also totally blind, and am using JFW 4.51. I've written a couple of scripts and a couple of frames that make DBT a bit easier to use, and I'd be happy to discuss them off list with anyone who's interested. I'll even discuss it here if enough people want me to, but I hate to clutter up the list if only a few people care. Steve On Friday 4/25/03 20:31 Kaizen ESL Program wrote: >Hi Steve, > >That is what I do too, when I know the underline is there in advance. I am >totally blind so I can't know by just glancing at the document. I am using >JAWS for Windows 3.5 and 4.5. When I read over a Microsoft Word document >that I have scanned or that another teacher has shared with me, I try to >remember to replace all underlines with nothing, or to replace them with >dashes if that is more appropriate. JAWS doesn't usually speak the >underlines because most of the time I am reading the Word document primarily >for content and how clearly it is written, so I am usually using JAWS set to >only speak some punctuation. I also try to remember to check for the other >problems I mentioned earlier. If I forget, I catch the problem when I >proofread the embossed braille copy. But, most sighted people who are >relying on the braille translation program to give them an automatic braille >copy don't do this, and are puzzled (some even a little annoyed) when I tell >them that they need to take the underlines away or take the number signs >away, etc. > >Sylvie Kashdan >Instructor/Curriculum Coordinator >KAIZEN PROGRAM for New English Learners with Visual Limitations >810-A Hiawatha Place South >Seattle, WA 98144 >phone: (206) 784-5619 >email: kaizen_esl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steve Dresser" <s.dresser@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 9:50 AM >Subject: [duxuser] Re: Dilemma, How to Train Sighted Staff to Do Braille >using DBT > > >On Thursday 4/24/03 17:42 George Bell wrote: > >2) If the document contains the symbol for underline (that > >is ___) to denote lines where people were supposed to write > >by hand, to give answers to questions, etc. it will come out > >with a series of dot 4 and dot 6, not a line at all, and > >very messy looking to me, as well as being often confusing > >to students. >When I braille documents that have underlines like that, I just remove them >and leave the rest of the line blank. That way, if someone is filling out >the form by inserting the page in a braille writer, he/she will have space >for the answer. I don't know if there's a rule for this, but I've just >given you Steve's rule. > >Steve > > >* * * >* This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. >* To unsubscribe, send a blank message with >* unsubscribe >* as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also >* subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription >* options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive >* is also located there. >* Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com >* * * > > > >* * * >* This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. >* To unsubscribe, send a blank message with >* unsubscribe >* as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also >* subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription >* options by visiting //www.freelists.org. 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