[duxuser] Re: Dilemma, How to Train Sighted Staff to Do Braille using DBT

From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 00:26:12 -0400
Wow Dale,

That's a strong statement.

Suffice to say that DBT at least has the goal of attempting to go for the
latter.  Real world aware.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: 29 April 2003 21:26
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Well the problem remains that documents come the way sighted people create
them and that is usually the way software authors arrange the defaults.

One might instruct the world to create their documents to be Duxbury
friendly or one might create Braille transcription software to be real world
aware.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario
dleavens@xxxxxxx
     Home of the Polar Bear Express!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Stageberg" <stageberg.susan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:01 PM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Dilemma, How to Train Sighted Staff to Do Braille
using DBT


There is indeed a "Smart Quotes" option in WordPerfect.  I don't have it
on this machine so can't seek out the exact place to find it, but I know
that we routinely uncheck all automatic formatting in WordPerfect, which
is still widely used here.  Otherwise you have to go in and replace the
funky characters with the "real" apostrophes, etc.; these characters are
assigned numbers which you can find somewhere in a list in WordPerfect;
then you can do a "find and replace" ("seek and destroy").  Sorry I
don't remember more specifics; my job has taken me away from those days
where I knew such things off the top of my head, but I know it can be
done.

Susie Stageberg
Project ASSIST with Windows
Iowa Department for the Blind


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Dresser [mailto:s.dresser@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:10 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Dilemma, How to Train Sighted Staff to Do Braille
using DBT


Dale,

I don't know if there is a "Smart quotes" option in Word Perfect, but if

there is, it should be turned off.  As I said, DBT isn't the problem
here.  The problem is that people are using the wrong character for an
apostrophe.  Incidentally, I believe the "Smart Quotes" checkbox is part
of
the Format menu in Word.

Steve

On Monday 4/28/03 21:59 Dale Leavens wrote:
>So if I turn smart quotes off (assuming I can find it) then that ~
>problem will go away when I import MS-Word and more particularly
>WordPerfect files into DBT? WordPerfect is still the processor of
>preference around here. If not then what? is this a characteristic of
>DBT that users prefer? If so, Why? if not then can it be got rid of?
>
>If DBT can consistently turn the ', however misused into a ~ then
>surely it could equally well turn it into an '.
>
>Do people really have the opposite problem?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario
>dleavens@xxxxxxx
>      Home of the Polar Bear Express!
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Dresser" <s.dresser@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 8:51 AM
>Subject: [duxuser] Re: Dilemma, How to Train Sighted Staff to Do
>Braille using DBT
>
>
>On Sunday 4/27/03 17:07 Dale Leavens wrote:
> >why must DBT regard the apostrophe as a tilde character?
>It doesn't.  However, many people use the apostrophe for a single or
>double quote, which they should not.  Also, many people have smart
>quotes turned on in Word, which causes a single quote to be used in
>place of the apostrophe.
>
>Steve
>
>
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