[audacity4blind] Re: Selection with audacity
- From: Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 09:05:24 +0100
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> Le 14 janv. 2015 à 09:02, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a
> écrit :
>
> Hi Manu!
>
> Glad you got it to work! :-)
> If you find any workarounds to my questions below please let me know, since
> that could speed my workflow up in Audacity.
> :-)
> Best regards
> Thomas
>> Den 14/01/2015 kl. 08.14 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>> Hi mister Thomas,
>> I’m very happy to say you, it’s OK…
>> I can select now with my new shortcuts….
>> Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaankkkkkkkk yoooooouuuuuuuuuuuu
>>
>> Amicalement…
>> ——————
>>
>> Manu
>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>
>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>> http://www.manu-dpk.net
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>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>
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>>> Le 14 janv. 2015 à 08:00, Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Thank you very much Thomas,
>>> I will try t do it…
>>> And I will come back to reply to you.
>>> Thank again
>>>
>>> Amicalement…
>>> ——————
>>>
>>> Manu
>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>
>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net
>>>
>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>
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>>>> Le 14 janv. 2015 à 07:35, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Hi Manu!
>>>>
>>>> Okay I think I know what’s going on here.
>>>> The issue is that your keyboard may not have the bracket keys. My keyboard
>>>> is a Danish keyboard, and doesn’t have those keys so therefor I changed
>>>> them to something else.
>>>> You can do this by exporting your keyboard settings to an xml-document and
>>>> then edit this inTextedit on your Mac. It is possible perhaps to change
>>>> this from the preferences in Audacity, but the keyboard area of the
>>>> program is changed a little, and there might be small accessibility issues
>>>> here. I do not use this area myself quite often, so I’m not sure. I did
>>>> not find it very friendly to navigate at this time, when I just checked,
>>>> so therefor I would suggest you export the keyboard shortcuts, that part
>>>> is still easy to get to.
>>>> 1. Go to Preferences
>>>> 2. FInd in the tabel the item Keyboard.
>>>> 3. Find the button called Export.
>>>> 4. Save it as you do with other documents on your Mac, and then close
>>>> Audacity.
>>>> 5. Open it in Textedit.
>>>> 6. Edit the following two lines:
>>>> Left at playback position
>>>> and:
>>>> Right at playback position.
>>>> There should be quotes around the bracket keys. DO NOT DELETE THOSE! Only
>>>> delete the left and right bracket signs and replace them with g for left,
>>>> and h for right.
>>>> NOTE: You may have to use capitals letters for Audacity to get the hotkeys
>>>> right. That was actually what I discovered after having this issue for
>>>> YEARS, and I mean years literally!
>>>> 7. Save your file and close Textedit.
>>>> 8. Reopen Audacity, open preferences and find the keyboard section again.
>>>> 9. FInd the “Import” button,and navigate to your file.
>>>> 10. Choose to import it, and when you’re done select OK within the
>>>> preferences of Audacity.
>>>>
>>>> That should do the trick.
>>>> If you want, I can send my XML-document with the changed keys to you of
>>>> list. I only changed these two keys, nothing else is changed.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Thomas
>>>>> Den 14/01/2015 kl. 00.15 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi…
>>>>> I’m very sorry but I can’t use selection with markers…
>>>>> I can select just with interact with selection bar.
>>>>> That’ it, I will work it like the method… It’s very sad…
>>>>> Thank you for your help…
>>>>>
>>>>> Amicalement…
>>>>> ——————
>>>>>
>>>>> Manu
>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>>
>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net
>>>>>
>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>>>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>>>
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>>>>> n’est pas nécessaire.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 23:14, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard
>>>>>> <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Manu and others!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manu:
>>>>>> I’m a Mac-user as well, and I have used Audacity for a couple of months.
>>>>>> I have never got the selection bar to work probably due to some
>>>>>> accessibility issues in Audacity whereVoiceover will not read the
>>>>>> numbers if you do not use the Vo-keys and the arrow keys to read the
>>>>>> numbers.
>>>>>> David Bales has written an excellent introduction to Audacity for users
>>>>>> of Jaws, but we can all benefit from this on the Mac too, so try to find
>>>>>> this guide. It is located in the help under advanced, accessibility, I
>>>>>> believe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you are navigating Audacity you need to do this in a very windows
>>>>>> fashion way. That is not a bad thing, it is just a little unusual
>>>>>> compared to how you would use standard Mac applications.
>>>>>> What you need to do is to move the Mac’s keyboard cursor along with the
>>>>>> Voiceover cursor. That is done by pressing tab or shift-tab, as you do
>>>>>> in Windows. That is very much needed in the preferences since you
>>>>>> otherwise will miss some important informations, and the screen seems
>>>>>> confusing. At least that was what my experience was when i first used
>>>>>> Audacity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You will need to disable a certain checkbox inside the preferences that
>>>>>> tells Audacity to select everything by default, as mentioned by others
>>>>>> on this list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now to the selection issue:
>>>>>> 1. Record your sound.
>>>>>> 2. Playback by pressing spacebar.
>>>>>> 3. When you are at the position where you want the selection to start
>>>>>> press shift-a.
>>>>>> 4. You can either press left bracket key to set the start of selection,
>>>>>> or simply just press space again to start playback again. Now you’ll
>>>>>> hear the sound from where the cursor is placed.
>>>>>> 5. When you are at the position for the selection to end press the right
>>>>>> bracket key… perhaps press P first to pause before you set the end of
>>>>>> selection marker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now you can press spacebar and hear the entire selection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is how I do this most of the time.
>>>>>> Sorry for making things a little confusing, but here I have some
>>>>>> questions for selection as well:
>>>>>> I wish it would be possible to hear what is before and after the
>>>>>> selection, without removing the selection. I am not talking about the
>>>>>> preview feature where you can press e to hear how the edit will sound.
>>>>>> When I am selecting the last few seconds of a file I have an issue when
>>>>>> I have moved the cursor with shift-a. I can not play back and go to the
>>>>>> left of the cursor while I am playing the sound back. Another thing is
>>>>>> that the increments the movements are sometimes are way to big, so
>>>>>> instead of hearing the last four seconds, I hear 10 or 14 seconds
>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>> And lastly:
>>>>>> … And if I set the cursor a wrong place with shift A I can’t get before
>>>>>> that spot, as mentioned, and sometimes I just need to hear what’s coming
>>>>>> up if I need to make some edits so the recording still sounds natural,
>>>>>> and if I need to move the cursor back to an earlier spot I have to press
>>>>>> home to get to the begining of the track instead of moving the cursof a
>>>>>> little to the lfet or just be able to hear a little to the left of the
>>>>>> cursor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>> Den 13/01/2015 kl. 19.41 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> Thank for your reply.
>>>>>>> I tested theses following actions :
>>>>>>> 1. R : to record my voice (OK)
>>>>>>> 2. Space Bar : To play (OK)
>>>>>>> 3. Shift+A : to pause and put cursor for my begin selection (OK)
>>>>>>> 4. Right arrow Key few time : to adjust selection landscape bar to play
>>>>>>> selection (OK)
>>>>>>> 5. Delete :( Error) All content of my recording is deleted.
>>>>>>> I see in selection bar and the piece of my recording is selected as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. R : to record my voice (OK)
>>>>>>> 2. Space Bar : To play (OK)
>>>>>>> 3. Shift+A : to pause and localise the begin selection (OK)
>>>>>>> 4. Adjust selection with select bar : Begin selection to 000001seconds
>>>>>>> to end selection 0000003S (OK)
>>>>>>> 5. Delete (OK)
>>>>>>> But this method is easier than the first method…
>>>>>>> Haïe, Haïe, Haïe...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Amicalement…
>>>>>>> ——————
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Manu
>>>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web
>>>>>>> officiel : http://www.manu-dpk.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son.
>>>>>>> Le but est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des
>>>>>>> métiers, des ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une
>>>>>>> quinzaine de minutes.
>>>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce
>>>>>>> n’est pas nécessaire.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 18:32, vitorflash <vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In windows, and using an english or US keeboard, you can use the left
>>>>>>>> and right brackets to mark the beginning and end of a selection. In
>>>>>>>> case of a different keeboard, you can probably change the kee assigned
>>>>>>>> to the marks in the keeboard shortkuts dialog under the preferences
>>>>>>>> menu; probably the same applies to mac as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Manu
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:16 PM
>>>>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Selection with audacity
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your fast reply.
>>>>>>>> Like Windows system, I can select and unselect my track… I’m verifying
>>>>>>>> before editing my track…
>>>>>>>> I d’ont understand why I can’t select easily with my arrow keys…
>>>>>>>> Can we make any markers on a track like others sound editors ?
>>>>>>>> Beginner marker and end markers… After we can delete that there’s
>>>>>>>> between two markers ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Amicalement…
>>>>>>>> ——————
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Manu
>>>>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>>>>>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers,
>>>>>>>> des ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de
>>>>>>>> minutes.
>>>>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si
>>>>>>>> ce n’est pas nécessaire.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 17:46, vitorflash <vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>>>> Well, i’m not a mac user and actually never used it, but i had the
>>>>>>>>> same problem with the windows version.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Reading the manual, i found that by default, at least in windows, all
>>>>>>>>> the audio in a track is selected unless we actually make a selection.
>>>>>>>>> So I followed the instructions and just went to the preferences menu
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> to the tracks dialog. Tabbing arround, there i found
>>>>>>>>> Behaviors Select all audio in project, if none selected check box
>>>>>>>>> checked, and unchecked it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, it’s important to press enter to actually select a track before
>>>>>>>>> being able to edit the audio. I don’t really know if these rules
>>>>>>>>> apply to the mac system, but hope that helps anyway.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: Man
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:06 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Selection with audacity
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> I’m a new user of Audacity.
>>>>>>>>> I’m mac user.
>>>>>>>>> So I’d like to select a pice of record on one track. For example,
>>>>>>>>> begin selection at 00:00:03 to end selection at 00:00:03.
>>>>>>>>> I can use selection bar but if I want be more perfect I must adjust
>>>>>>>>> selection with Shift+right arrow or Shift+left Arrow or
>>>>>>>>> Shift+Command+Right arrow and Shift+Command+Left Arrow.
>>>>>>>>> But when I want to make selection with arrow key, if I delete
>>>>>>>>> selection, all content of my track is deleted. Before, I see in
>>>>>>>>> selection bar what it’s select and my selection is good.
>>>>>>>>> Please, tell me if I forget something to delete juste my selection
>>>>>>>>> and not all content of track !!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’m french lol… Sorry for my bad english…
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Amicalement…
>>>>>>>>> ——————
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Manu
>>>>>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>>>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>>>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le
>>>>>>>>> but est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des
>>>>>>>>> métiers, des ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une
>>>>>>>>> quinzaine de minutes.
>>>>>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> —————————————————————————————————————————————
>>>>>>>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si
>>>>>>>>> ce n’est pas nécessaire.
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